All law enforcement agencies have the same amount of zero oversight that the FBI has, but local police departments also get to terrorize their local communities with military hardware on top of constant monitoring with stuff like Palantir
Living in NYC as a poor immigrant teen 1990s through upper-middle-class (or whatever) adult through 2021, I did not feel "terrorized" by the NYPD.
Now I live in a small town not far from NYC and the police are literally part of the community, it's a few dozen folks that most people in town know on first name basis. No terrorizing.
To be clear, as someone who grew up in the USSR, I am certainly in sync with the idea that police can be oppressive, it just does not resonate at all with what I see in my now 3 decades in the US.
There are just many privileged people here that are so insulated from reality they confuse their insane social media political talking points with actual reality.
The counter argument is always some straw man pulled from news headlines.
> which is why crime is rising catastrophically and people are fleeing to states like Texas.
California violent crime rate : 25.2 / 100k
Texas violent crime rate : 24.8 / 100k
California property crime : 35.4 / 100k
Texas property crime. : 38.0 / 100k
Yep, trully a disproportionate crime rate that warrants narratives about "people fleeing", which btw is not happening, demographic movements have been pretty steady. Largest moves have been a few real state companies and some dudes with podcasts.
> at some point y'all have to look at SF and say "huh, maybe we weren't right about everything"
Is SF somehow not part of the american police state? Like what part of California is suddenly this leftist utopia and warrants careful consideration before american follows suit into hell?
Cali is notorious for NIMBYism, where police are called by rich white liberals to keep minorities, homeless etc away. Police action is as violent and as class aware as anywhere else in the US.
The SF police budget is 780 million yearly, that would put them above 60 countries on earth by gdp. The entire country of micronesia, with 500k people could work for 2 whole years and not be able to pay 1 year of the SF police budget.
xyzelement|2 years ago
Living in NYC as a poor immigrant teen 1990s through upper-middle-class (or whatever) adult through 2021, I did not feel "terrorized" by the NYPD.
Now I live in a small town not far from NYC and the police are literally part of the community, it's a few dozen folks that most people in town know on first name basis. No terrorizing.
To be clear, as someone who grew up in the USSR, I am certainly in sync with the idea that police can be oppressive, it just does not resonate at all with what I see in my now 3 decades in the US.
laratied|2 years ago
There are just many privileged people here that are so insulated from reality they confuse their insane social media political talking points with actual reality.
The counter argument is always some straw man pulled from news headlines.
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Arkhaine_kupo|2 years ago
California violent crime rate : 25.2 / 100k
Texas violent crime rate : 24.8 / 100k
California property crime : 35.4 / 100k
Texas property crime. : 38.0 / 100k
Yep, trully a disproportionate crime rate that warrants narratives about "people fleeing", which btw is not happening, demographic movements have been pretty steady. Largest moves have been a few real state companies and some dudes with podcasts.
> at some point y'all have to look at SF and say "huh, maybe we weren't right about everything"
Is SF somehow not part of the american police state? Like what part of California is suddenly this leftist utopia and warrants careful consideration before american follows suit into hell?
Cali is notorious for NIMBYism, where police are called by rich white liberals to keep minorities, homeless etc away. Police action is as violent and as class aware as anywhere else in the US.
The SF police budget is 780 million yearly, that would put them above 60 countries on earth by gdp. The entire country of micronesia, with 500k people could work for 2 whole years and not be able to pay 1 year of the SF police budget.
ahiknsr|2 years ago
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/texas-governor-seeks-to-pa...