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abosherid | 2 years ago

May I ask what religion?

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gjsman-1000|2 years ago

Traditional Catholicism.

“Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it.”

Doesn’t take more than a minute of reflection to figure out why we interpret it this way.

Edit @avar to your question ("posting too fast"): https://gist.github.com/gjsman/d928b0db53cc2a4bacf37d4e45543...

avar|2 years ago

I'm an atheist, but this is an honest question: does it?

My understanding of catholic doctrine is that Jesus was part of the holy Trinity and knew it before he sacrificed himself.

Therefore when he sacrificed himself for humanity he wasn't in the sort of personal danger or at risk of eternal damnation that a mere mortal in his shoes would be.

I've always understood that as God making a grand gesture of some sort, not that Jesus was in personal danger comparable to that of a mortal in his shoes.

Of course being tortured for days before being guaranteed a seat by God's side in heaven upon death would royally suck in the short term.

But I'd think an internally cotsisconsistent interpretation of doctrine would call for a personal sacrifice short of that of Jesus in his last days from a mere mortal, the odds being stacked in the deity's favor. No?

nathan_compton|2 years ago

Uh. Catholicism calls for you to love everyone to the point of torture and death. It is weird that you missed this message.

The Catholic line would be something like "God created marriage as a kind of metaphor for your relationship with all people, as a kind of easy arena where you can play out the kind of love that you should extend to the entire world."

Jesus, after all, did not die for a wife except in this very metaphorical sense. He died for sinners, lazy shits, prostitutes, tax collectors, etc, etc, etc. That is what the calling in Catholicism is.

mjh2539|2 years ago

Re your gist post, the hypostasis had a human nature from the beginning, and not just from the time he was born.