Biological weapons are not used by the US due to practicality, not morality.
1. It's difficult to manufacture biological agents in large quantities.
2. It's hard to store biological agents for long periods of time, since living things tend to die.
3. It's hard to disperse biological agents over a large area. Spray tanks require flying at low altitude at slow speeds, or multiple deployments at high speeds. Munitions with bursters are problematic because the explosive burster tends to destroy much of the biological agent that you're trying to spread.
4. It's easy to protect troops in the field from biological agents and all major countries maintain and exercise the capability to do so.
5. Biological agents are slow acting and unreliable in their effect.
Long after the Korean War, the Soviet microtoxin program overcame many of these problems. The Americans took a different approach and focused on improving nerve agents, with the most recent development (that I know of) being a multi-part agent called GB-2.
If the evidence presented in this article are true, then it's likely because of the 'test trial' usages in the Korean War that it was confirmed to be impractical.
Plus, considering there's substantial evidence that McArthur was close to nuking Manchuria, it seems likely he would have been willing to try something slightly less escalatory and much easier to hide and plausibly deny.
Biological agents are not used by the US because it went all in on nukes. Frankly, the US having an official policy of "biological attacks will be met by nukes" is better than having a bioweapon program as deterrence.
Do we really know what the current capabilities are. It would be top secret. It's been decades of research. I would expect many of these issues have been worked around.
I used to think AI was fictional pipe dream. Yet it came to be.
> 1. It's difficult to manufacture biological agents in large quantities.
Yet the covid vaccine was manufactured in huge quantities in short time.
> 2. It's hard to store biological agents for long periods of time, since living things tend to die.
The covid vaccine was kept cold storage of -60, and it was good for 18 months.
>3. It's hard to disperse biological agents over a large area.
This would not be an issue for a respiratory virus, that targets a specific ethnic group.
> 4. It's easy to protect troops in the field from biological agents and all major countries maintain and exercise the capability to do so.
Yet almost everyone got infected by covid.
> 5. Biological agents are slow acting and unreliable in their effect.
Covid was fast acting. Yet not that deadly. So i suppose if it was more deadly this too would fall.
I stopped reading when the author categorized "prisoners of war being told to read confessions over Chinese propaganda radio" as "testifying publicly", almost at the start of the piece:
> It was the propaganda version of an incendiary bomb. In 1952 U.S. Air Force and Marine flyers, shot down during the Korean War, testified publicly that they had been ordered to drop biological weapons (BW) on China and North Korea.
The two sentences feel intentionally written to obfuscate the fact that the statements were made under duress as POWs; it strongly implies that they testified, after the war, about dropping biological weapons.
Even if much of what he does discuss did happen (the US secretly pardoning Japanese units that did absolutely horrific experiments on people for chemical and biological warfare, for example, and of course we used a lot of horrific shit in Korea and Vietnam), there's so much that is unsourced / uncited mixed in.
Half the links in the text are to his own writing, another chunk are to other Medium blogs, with a sprinkling of newspaper clippings (because the newspapers were so trustworthy back during that time)...pass.
I really don't know what to think of HN these days. You're absolutely right, and yet this post is at the bottom being downvoted.
If the pilots knew, then a large number of support crew also would have known. But the only "testimony" we have is from captured PoWs, after how many decades of opportunities for deathbed confessions? Give me a break.
Yeah, this is just a weird ass conspiratorial article. I didn’t read the whole thing, but I kept scanning for FOIA documents and the like, and never found any. It’s just captured pilots said so in North Korean media. Well, that’s not very reliable source.
Did the US do a bunch of sketchy things in the 1950s and 60s? Absolutely. How do we know? We have the government documents. This guy has nothing, except sources of very dubious reliability and his own biases.
>it strongly implies that they testified, after the war, about dropping biological weapons.
It directly says it happened in 1952, and links to a newspaper clearly saying the 'confession' was made by captured American officers. How does it imply the exact opposite of what it says?
You should have kept reading. The article goes into quite a bit of detail on this debate and how the CIA was preparing before their confessions to explain that they were forced to say things. There is a rich story around many people and their different accounts.
This guy alleges that the US were 'kind' on Japan (only light tribunal?) after the war because they wanted to acquire the bio-warfare knowledge of the Japanese.
This is a constantly changing area of history, so we're on shaky ground. The diaries of the chamberlain to Hirohito were only published a couple years ago, for example. They implicate the emperor deeply in war-time decisions in a way that contradicts the post-war narrative of a hapless well-meaning buffoon misled by his underlings.
I suspect the real reason is close to the usually accepted story, though. Millions of Japanese thought the emperor was a living god. That's how many Americans viewed it then. It's a useful interpretive lens even now.
If the Emperor concedes and surrenders, all of his legitimacy transfers to whoever the Emperor says to listen to. MacArthur got the unofficial title gaijin shogun -- foreign Shogun, the shogun being the military dictator who ruled pre-Meiji Japan, in the name of the Emperor.
Dépose or kill the emperor and all bets are off. What would be institutionally legitimate in its place? How long to construct it? When you have an entire administration in place, it'd be awfully tempting to whitewash the imperial institution. Which is exactly what MacArthur did. Speaking of which, the personality of Douglas MacArthur dominates this whole topic. He had carte blanche. Complete unlimited authority. And he exercised it, often in ways not anticipated in Washington. He was an eccentric man and quite opaque as to his decision-making.
CIA: Oh we totally did that in the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and we totally tried to cover it up for decades but hey we totally stopped now! Proof? We said we stopped didn't we? Why do you need proof?
Anyone who thinks we're still not doing it is a fool. COVID19 is in all likelihood bioweapons research gone wrong. It doesn't take much sleuthing to uncover the Eco Health Alliance application DARPA to test furin cleavage sites on bat corona viruses. DARPA told them "no" and yet here we are. Saying what I'm saying will get you labeled a conspiracy theorist. Would be a shame if there were ever people that conspired and we used that heuristic to dismiss people.
But that's OK with me, conspiracy theories are having a phenomenal few years! We should may consider changing the name to "spoiler alerts".
Reading this, my meta conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theories are rarely false, it's just that talking about them at all disqualifies you from being invited to participate in them. Your option is either to be a practical conspirator by joining in, or remain on the outside as a just theorist.
I think you might be unaware of how many conspiracies there are. Any major event at any point in history most likely has a conspiracy attached. This goes exponential the closer you get to present day.
I've heard another variation of this story. The broad outline is that the USG thought the Chinese/Soviets had some sort of mind-control/brainwashing technique that triggered these confessions. It was allegedly a large part of the impetus that led them to create their own ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA program. But in the end the CIA determined the only technique that was really necessary and used on the men for this purpose was sleep deprivation.
I'm not claiming either version of the events is true/false. Just relaying another I've heard.
> It was allegedly a large part of the impetus that led them to create their own ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA program.
This is a commonly repeated refrain, but it just exists to provide a comforting explanation for the fact that the U.S. security state decided to embark on a program of mind control experimentation on many unwitting and unwilling human guinea pigs. The truth is that as WWII wound down, we eagerly imported Nazi scientists who were already engaged in this kind of research, and ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA/etc were just the continuation of it for all the same purposes but under a different name.
This reminds me of Gulf War I when Iraqi TV was displaying what they claimed was the wreckage from a downed America fighter jet. It was shell halves from an American cluster bomb, a CBU-58 I think.
Now we have synthetic DNA to develop gain of function in viruses that can target segments of population such as the elders and those with comorbidities. We can follow up on that with proprietary MRNA shots formulated to take down targeted individuals in a one two punch.
If you don't have a medium login (like me) you can read the full article archived[1]
A bit tangential to the central thesis, but John Marks' 1979 classic The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, referenced by TFA, is online[2].
Chapter 8, Brainwashing[3], has interesting details about CIA-friendly journalist Edward Hunter's PR campaign to frame "brainwashing" (a term he coined) as a uniquely communist form of political indoctrination via technological means.
> In September 1950, the Miami News published an article by Edward Hunter titled " 'Brain-Washing' Tactics Force Chinese into Ranks of Communist Party." It was the first printed use in any language of the term "brainwashing," which quickly became a stock phrase in Cold War headlines. Hunter, a CIA propaganda operator who worked under cover as a journalist, turned out a steady stream of books and articles on the subject. He made up his coined word from the Chinese hsi-nao—"to cleanse the mind"—which had no political meaning in Chinese.
> American public opinion reacted strongly to Hunter's ideas, no doubt because of the hostility that prevailed toward communist foes, whose ways were perceived as mysterious and alien. Most Americans knew something about the famous trial of the Hungarian Josef Cardinal Mindszenty, at which the Cardinal appeared zombie-like, as though drugged or hypnotized. [...] Americans were familiar with the idea that the communists had ways to control hapless people, and Hunter's new word helped pull together the unsettling evidence into one sharp fear.
Marks then touches on the bioweapon allegation without further examination:
> The brainwashing controversy intensified during the heavy 1952 fighting in Korea, when the Chinese government launched a propaganda offensive that featured recorded statements by captured U.S. pilots, who "confessed" to a variety of war crimes including the use of germ warfare.
You can not have "Government by the people, for the people" when you allow some people to keep secrets from other people under the guise of "national security"
Self governance is incompatible with states secrets, and only leads to abuse, corruption, and tyranny.
History is full of known abuses, and for every known abuse there is the potential for LOTS of unknown abuse.
One can say "well congress will hold them accountable" but along time ago congress passed a law to declassify everything around JFK assassination, yet multiple presidents after bring pressured by the CIA for "national security reasons" have refused to release all kinds of document in direct violation of that law.
the CIA, any other agency with the power to "classify" things, is a direct and ever present threat to not only liberty but the underpinning of democracy everyone claims to support.
Some level of secrecy for purely operational matters is natural. You don't want to give out the keys to your secure communications system or publish your military dispositions in real time.
On the other hand, the existence of programs like this cannot and should not be granted a veil of secrecy. It's a sad irony that the US presents itself as the champion of a rules-based international order, human rights etc., while refusing to submit itself to the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court or sign any treaty that might be even slightly disadvantageous.
> the CIA, any other agency with the power to "classify" things, is a direct and ever present threat to not only liberty but the underpinning of democracy everyone claims to support.
The part I put in italics is too stringent. National security quite obviously necessitates classification. E.g., Turing's classified Enigma team was definitely less of a threat to democracy than, say, the WWII equivalent of an HN public bikeshedding marathon about how best to use the newly discovered codebreaking to win for the allies.
What matters is what happens when we discover abuses. E.g., AFAICT nobody from the CIA has been held accountable for what was documented (when not redacted) in the Torture Memos that came out of Feinstein's office. That kind of lack of accountability is a threat to democracy.
But it in no way implies that nothing should ever be redacted.
How would we be able to weaponize human rights abuses in other countries if the world knew we were deploying bioweapons? Censhorship, propaganda, and secrecy is the answer.
Another problem with state secrets is that the class of people with access to secrets is usually biased toward specific groups, races, or creeds, and said secrets are used to keep the group in a position of power.
I thought medium.com content wasn’t allowed to be posted? Or at least anytime I post anything from medium, it is shadowbanned or whatever the term for not allowing comments..
The birth of the US biological warfare program took place at around the same time as the birth of the US nuclear weapons program, but the former is far less well known - because the nuclear weapons were actually used, and the biological weapons were not. At the same time, Nazi Germany had also developed a massive chemical weapons program based on the novel nerve agents, sarin and tabun (developed as organophosphorus pesticide agents but found to be far too toxic for use on crops), at the same time. Nazi Germany never used these agents (though Goebbels apparently called for their use against the Normandy invasion by US allies, but Hitler feared retaliation by similar means so nixed it).
A not-too-bad overview of some of this history is in "The Biology of Doom" by Ed Regis, but it was written with CIA cooperation and hides a lot of facts, such as the scale of the insect-borne disease vector program (i.e. things like spreading fleas infected with bubonic plague, or distributing insect pests to destroy crops, or the chemical destruction of cropland by Agent Orange in Vietnam).
Regis claims the US biological warfare program wasn't sufficiently advanced to launch attacks on Korea, but the US had also collected all the data from the Japanese biological warfare program from Shiro Ishii, of notorious Unit 731, and this wasn't revealed until the 1970s. Best evidence points to a fairly experimental biowarfare assault being launched on North Korea, with poor results. Quite psychotic, but that's America in the 1950s for you.
The offensive biowarfare program ran from 1942 (see 'Merck Report') to 1969 when Nixon closed it down (publicly anyway) after a massive sheep kill caused by US Army testing of VX agent outside Dugway Utah. Look up "Shady Grove" etc, for example, which demonstrated you could infect the entire eastern seaboard with a few jets loaded with liquid suspension of anthrax spores:
That's by Jonathan Tucker, longtime researcher of this subject. Died somewhat mysteriously in 2011 right before being put in a position to expose a lot of shady behavior related to the 9/18 and 10/9 anthrax attacks:
Governments just hate having their history of recklessly stupid biological warfare research exposed. P.S. here's the most likely source of the those anthrax attacks:
Oh, and the ~ $12 trillion economic damage Covid epidemic which killed about as many people as the Holocaust was caused by idiots in a Chinese virus lab who got their technology and funding from the USA. Oops...
> Bioweapon labs in Ukraine is one of Putin's stated reasons for the Invasion. Allegedly work was being done on targeting specific ethnicities, like slavs. Ukraine was a very politically corrupt country, for a long time. Would not surprise me if this was true.
This is one of Putins and his supporters Krokodil inspired fever dreams that never existed, Russia also said they wouldn’t invade the day before they did.
They have also been saying that Ukraine is using black magic witch battalions to be attack them, do you believe?.
> The US has been involved in a staggering amount of crime abroad in the last century.
You're not wrong. We've been incredibly shitty domestically and internationally.
> Perhaps more than all other countries combined.
Uhhhh, yeah, not really. The last century or two, humanity's hands have been pretty collectively bathed in blood.
I'd say easily the most bloody are those of the British, whose oppression and exploitation is unmatched in modern history for how pervasive, long-running, and brutal it was. I'd guess figures well into "hundreds of millions", possibly a billion or more across the several centuries. People look at Blackwater and their ilk and think it was some sort of new boundary being crossed. East India Company for two and a half centuries placed large swaths of the world's populace under corporate rule and had its own standing army and navy.
Japan committed so many wartime atrocities during WW2 it's difficult to summarize or account for them all, and estimates go as high as 30M killed.
Stalin's regime is estimated to have killed around 20 million people.
Mao could have been responsible for as many as 40 million.
Then there's all manner of dictators in the Americas and Africa (some propped up by America, of course), the various southeast asian regimes (Indonesia for example) and so on.
GartzenDeHaes|2 years ago
1. It's difficult to manufacture biological agents in large quantities.
2. It's hard to store biological agents for long periods of time, since living things tend to die.
3. It's hard to disperse biological agents over a large area. Spray tanks require flying at low altitude at slow speeds, or multiple deployments at high speeds. Munitions with bursters are problematic because the explosive burster tends to destroy much of the biological agent that you're trying to spread.
4. It's easy to protect troops in the field from biological agents and all major countries maintain and exercise the capability to do so.
5. Biological agents are slow acting and unreliable in their effect.
Long after the Korean War, the Soviet microtoxin program overcame many of these problems. The Americans took a different approach and focused on improving nerve agents, with the most recent development (that I know of) being a multi-part agent called GB-2.
MichaelZuo|2 years ago
Plus, considering there's substantial evidence that McArthur was close to nuking Manchuria, it seems likely he would have been willing to try something slightly less escalatory and much easier to hide and plausibly deny.
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rvba|2 years ago
Cannot find much information about anything like that via google.
coolhand2120|2 years ago
What would you describe this as? This was proposed to the US military. Then it was executed by the Chinese military.
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dukeofdoom|2 years ago
I used to think AI was fictional pipe dream. Yet it came to be.
> 1. It's difficult to manufacture biological agents in large quantities.
Yet the covid vaccine was manufactured in huge quantities in short time.
> 2. It's hard to store biological agents for long periods of time, since living things tend to die.
The covid vaccine was kept cold storage of -60, and it was good for 18 months.
>3. It's hard to disperse biological agents over a large area.
This would not be an issue for a respiratory virus, that targets a specific ethnic group.
> 4. It's easy to protect troops in the field from biological agents and all major countries maintain and exercise the capability to do so.
Yet almost everyone got infected by covid.
> 5. Biological agents are slow acting and unreliable in their effect.
Covid was fast acting. Yet not that deadly. So i suppose if it was more deadly this too would fall.
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KennyBlanken|2 years ago
> It was the propaganda version of an incendiary bomb. In 1952 U.S. Air Force and Marine flyers, shot down during the Korean War, testified publicly that they had been ordered to drop biological weapons (BW) on China and North Korea.
The two sentences feel intentionally written to obfuscate the fact that the statements were made under duress as POWs; it strongly implies that they testified, after the war, about dropping biological weapons.
Even if much of what he does discuss did happen (the US secretly pardoning Japanese units that did absolutely horrific experiments on people for chemical and biological warfare, for example, and of course we used a lot of horrific shit in Korea and Vietnam), there's so much that is unsourced / uncited mixed in.
Half the links in the text are to his own writing, another chunk are to other Medium blogs, with a sprinkling of newspaper clippings (because the newspapers were so trustworthy back during that time)...pass.
creato|2 years ago
If the pilots knew, then a large number of support crew also would have known. But the only "testimony" we have is from captured PoWs, after how many decades of opportunities for deathbed confessions? Give me a break.
jonathankoren|2 years ago
Did the US do a bunch of sketchy things in the 1950s and 60s? Absolutely. How do we know? We have the government documents. This guy has nothing, except sources of very dubious reliability and his own biases.
boomboomsubban|2 years ago
It directly says it happened in 1952, and links to a newspaper clearly saying the 'confession' was made by captured American officers. How does it imply the exact opposite of what it says?
kornhole|2 years ago
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the-dude|2 years ago
This guy alleges that the US were 'kind' on Japan (only light tribunal?) after the war because they wanted to acquire the bio-warfare knowledge of the Japanese.
And the Japanese tested bio-bombs.
retrac|2 years ago
I suspect the real reason is close to the usually accepted story, though. Millions of Japanese thought the emperor was a living god. That's how many Americans viewed it then. It's a useful interpretive lens even now.
If the Emperor concedes and surrenders, all of his legitimacy transfers to whoever the Emperor says to listen to. MacArthur got the unofficial title gaijin shogun -- foreign Shogun, the shogun being the military dictator who ruled pre-Meiji Japan, in the name of the Emperor.
Dépose or kill the emperor and all bets are off. What would be institutionally legitimate in its place? How long to construct it? When you have an entire administration in place, it'd be awfully tempting to whitewash the imperial institution. Which is exactly what MacArthur did. Speaking of which, the personality of Douglas MacArthur dominates this whole topic. He had carte blanche. Complete unlimited authority. And he exercised it, often in ways not anticipated in Washington. He was an eccentric man and quite opaque as to his decision-making.
mytailorisrich|2 years ago
My understanding is that the US were worried about the communists and Japan's stability in general and decided not to unduly rock the boat.
hackerlight|2 years ago
sillywalk|2 years ago
coolhand2120|2 years ago
Anyone who thinks we're still not doing it is a fool. COVID19 is in all likelihood bioweapons research gone wrong. It doesn't take much sleuthing to uncover the Eco Health Alliance application DARPA to test furin cleavage sites on bat corona viruses. DARPA told them "no" and yet here we are. Saying what I'm saying will get you labeled a conspiracy theorist. Would be a shame if there were ever people that conspired and we used that heuristic to dismiss people.
But that's OK with me, conspiracy theories are having a phenomenal few years! We should may consider changing the name to "spoiler alerts".
motohagiography|2 years ago
shlant|2 years ago
I think you might be unaware of how many conspiracies there are. Any major event at any point in history most likely has a conspiracy attached. This goes exponential the closer you get to present day.
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TheBlight|2 years ago
I'm not claiming either version of the events is true/false. Just relaying another I've heard.
VagueMag|2 years ago
This is a commonly repeated refrain, but it just exists to provide a comforting explanation for the fact that the U.S. security state decided to embark on a program of mind control experimentation on many unwitting and unwilling human guinea pigs. The truth is that as WWII wound down, we eagerly imported Nazi scientists who were already engaged in this kind of research, and ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA/etc were just the continuation of it for all the same purposes but under a different name.
GartzenDeHaes|2 years ago
reso|2 years ago
kornhole|2 years ago
Now we have synthetic DNA to develop gain of function in viruses that can target segments of population such as the elders and those with comorbidities. We can follow up on that with proprietary MRNA shots formulated to take down targeted individuals in a one two punch.
MKULTRA ended in name only. NATO now has a sixth operational domain of cognitive warfare that uses social media and other advanced tools. https://www.projectcensored.org/18-the-human-mind-as-new-dom...
ttctciyf|2 years ago
A bit tangential to the central thesis, but John Marks' 1979 classic The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, referenced by TFA, is online[2].
Chapter 8, Brainwashing[3], has interesting details about CIA-friendly journalist Edward Hunter's PR campaign to frame "brainwashing" (a term he coined) as a uniquely communist form of political indoctrination via technological means.
> In September 1950, the Miami News published an article by Edward Hunter titled " 'Brain-Washing' Tactics Force Chinese into Ranks of Communist Party." It was the first printed use in any language of the term "brainwashing," which quickly became a stock phrase in Cold War headlines. Hunter, a CIA propaganda operator who worked under cover as a journalist, turned out a steady stream of books and articles on the subject. He made up his coined word from the Chinese hsi-nao—"to cleanse the mind"—which had no political meaning in Chinese.
> American public opinion reacted strongly to Hunter's ideas, no doubt because of the hostility that prevailed toward communist foes, whose ways were perceived as mysterious and alien. Most Americans knew something about the famous trial of the Hungarian Josef Cardinal Mindszenty, at which the Cardinal appeared zombie-like, as though drugged or hypnotized. [...] Americans were familiar with the idea that the communists had ways to control hapless people, and Hunter's new word helped pull together the unsettling evidence into one sharp fear.
Marks then touches on the bioweapon allegation without further examination:
> The brainwashing controversy intensified during the heavy 1952 fighting in Korea, when the Chinese government launched a propaganda offensive that featured recorded statements by captured U.S. pilots, who "confessed" to a variety of war crimes including the use of germ warfare.
1: https://archive.is/8stAi
2: https://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks.htm
3: https://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks8.htm
phpisthebest|2 years ago
Self governance is incompatible with states secrets, and only leads to abuse, corruption, and tyranny.
History is full of known abuses, and for every known abuse there is the potential for LOTS of unknown abuse.
One can say "well congress will hold them accountable" but along time ago congress passed a law to declassify everything around JFK assassination, yet multiple presidents after bring pressured by the CIA for "national security reasons" have refused to release all kinds of document in direct violation of that law.
the CIA, any other agency with the power to "classify" things, is a direct and ever present threat to not only liberty but the underpinning of democracy everyone claims to support.
anigbrowl|2 years ago
On the other hand, the existence of programs like this cannot and should not be granted a veil of secrecy. It's a sad irony that the US presents itself as the champion of a rules-based international order, human rights etc., while refusing to submit itself to the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court or sign any treaty that might be even slightly disadvantageous.
jancsika|2 years ago
The part I put in italics is too stringent. National security quite obviously necessitates classification. E.g., Turing's classified Enigma team was definitely less of a threat to democracy than, say, the WWII equivalent of an HN public bikeshedding marathon about how best to use the newly discovered codebreaking to win for the allies.
What matters is what happens when we discover abuses. E.g., AFAICT nobody from the CIA has been held accountable for what was documented (when not redacted) in the Torture Memos that came out of Feinstein's office. That kind of lack of accountability is a threat to democracy.
But it in no way implies that nothing should ever be redacted.
refurb|2 years ago
Was it wrong to keep D-Day invasion plans secret? The argument is that you couldn't even function as a military without some secrets.
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photochemsyn|2 years ago
A not-too-bad overview of some of this history is in "The Biology of Doom" by Ed Regis, but it was written with CIA cooperation and hides a lot of facts, such as the scale of the insect-borne disease vector program (i.e. things like spreading fleas infected with bubonic plague, or distributing insect pests to destroy crops, or the chemical destruction of cropland by Agent Orange in Vietnam).
Regis claims the US biological warfare program wasn't sufficiently advanced to launch attacks on Korea, but the US had also collected all the data from the Japanese biological warfare program from Shiro Ishii, of notorious Unit 731, and this wasn't revealed until the 1970s. Best evidence points to a fairly experimental biowarfare assault being launched on North Korea, with poor results. Quite psychotic, but that's America in the 1950s for you.
The offensive biowarfare program ran from 1942 (see 'Merck Report') to 1969 when Nixon closed it down (publicly anyway) after a massive sheep kill caused by US Army testing of VX agent outside Dugway Utah. Look up "Shady Grove" etc, for example, which demonstrated you could infect the entire eastern seaboard with a few jets loaded with liquid suspension of anthrax spores:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3092154
That's by Jonathan Tucker, longtime researcher of this subject. Died somewhat mysteriously in 2011 right before being put in a position to expose a lot of shady behavior related to the 9/18 and 10/9 anthrax attacks:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/biological-w...
Governments just hate having their history of recklessly stupid biological warfare research exposed. P.S. here's the most likely source of the those anthrax attacks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Clear_Vision
Oh, and the ~ $12 trillion economic damage Covid epidemic which killed about as many people as the Holocaust was caused by idiots in a Chinese virus lab who got their technology and funding from the USA. Oops...
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saalweachter|2 years ago
... aren't Ukrainians almost all Slavs?
_kbh_|2 years ago
This is one of Putins and his supporters Krokodil inspired fever dreams that never existed, Russia also said they wouldn’t invade the day before they did.
They have also been saying that Ukraine is using black magic witch battalions to be attack them, do you believe?.
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KennyBlanken|2 years ago
You're not wrong. We've been incredibly shitty domestically and internationally.
> Perhaps more than all other countries combined.
Uhhhh, yeah, not really. The last century or two, humanity's hands have been pretty collectively bathed in blood.
I'd say easily the most bloody are those of the British, whose oppression and exploitation is unmatched in modern history for how pervasive, long-running, and brutal it was. I'd guess figures well into "hundreds of millions", possibly a billion or more across the several centuries. People look at Blackwater and their ilk and think it was some sort of new boundary being crossed. East India Company for two and a half centuries placed large swaths of the world's populace under corporate rule and had its own standing army and navy.
Japan committed so many wartime atrocities during WW2 it's difficult to summarize or account for them all, and estimates go as high as 30M killed.
Stalin's regime is estimated to have killed around 20 million people.
Mao could have been responsible for as many as 40 million.
Then there's all manner of dictators in the Americas and Africa (some propped up by America, of course), the various southeast asian regimes (Indonesia for example) and so on.
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