WWDC 2023 Livestream

[TheAceOfHearts]

Does anyone else find the presentation triggering uncanny valley vibes? Everything is so polished and perfect that it no longer feels like it's being presented by humans. It just comes off as incredibly inauthentic and utterly devoid of human connection. There's an avatar of a human presenting, but no humanity is present.

[rngname22]

Say what you will about the cheesey Zuck and Boz meta presentations/demos, they at least seem like real people even if a bit dorky.

These constant gentle grin + precise hand gestures + identical infomercial vocal tone thing is weird AF.

[kgwxd]

It's infomercial style. I feel like I'm stuck in an airport next to a looping video about how a frequent flyer plan might be the right choice for me.

[scyzoryk_xyz]

Same feeling here. They're precisely hitting every mark, every line and every smile. It's like they're trying too hard. It's so air-tight that they come off as dorks.

But it makes complete sense, these things have always been like this.

[wordyskeleton]

not to mention the demonstrations--these do not feel like real people

[lumenwrites]

The number one thing I wish for in an iOS update is for the text selection and the cursor placement to become less terrible. Currently it is an absolutely unusable nightmare.

My main use case for my iPad is writing, and the guy who invented the "smart" text selection seems to hate my fingers - it is impossible to place the cursor where I want it to be. It tries to "intelligently" snap to the beginnings and endings of words and it gets it wrong 90% of the time.

I know that you can move the cursor with press and hold on the spacebar or on the text, but having to wait a second every time I want to move the cursor is the most annoying thing in the world. It is so much easier to edit text on my much smaller Android phone screen, it's ridiculous.

Just place the cursor where I tap, how hard can it be!

[itbeho]

I don't know how many times I've somehow selected the wrong word and then can't seem to select the word just to the left of it that I really want to copy...

[Toutouxc]

> having to wait a second every time I want to move the cursor is the most annoying thing

You can also use two fingers anywhere on the keyboard and there's no wait.

[saurik]

Had you used older versions of iOS? Did you prefer how it worked before, or have you always disliked it?

[jedberg]

He's talking about the lock screen but I still haven't heard the one I've been asking for for years:

Multiple users

Sometimes I want to let my kid use my phone. I'd like them to have their own login so they aren't messing with my stuff but have their own apps and their own saved data. Let each app be in control of what app is shared across logins vs separated.

[codetrotter]

> Multiple users

That would be amazing indeed.

Not even just because of kids. Imagine for example having a separate user for different things.

Like for example having a dedicated user that only has the default apps and Google Maps and WhatsApp. You can use this user outside and if anyone ever stole your phone while it’s unlocked they don’t have access to most of your sensitive data (email, signed in web sessions, various files and documents, etc).

But multiple users would probably mean families would buy fewer devices. In which case Apple might not want to add such a useful feature.

[scottiebarnes]

Apple wants you to buy an ipad for each kid.

[cassianoleal]

And please let me use multiple Apple accounts on the same phone! Every time I need to download something from a different App Store, it screws up everything I have downloaded in Music and other stuff. It also signs me off iMessage and what not, and it sometimes takes me months until I realise it.

[cassianoleal]

Actual multiple users on Apple TV would be great as well. Right now it just signs on to different iCloud accounts so it only makes a difference for Apple apps.

It would be great if apps and their profiles were different per user. i.e. I might want to be signed on to my own Jellyfin/Plex accounts, whilst someone else in the house want to be on theirs. Same for everything else, Netflix (automatic profile selection would be good), etc...

[MadsRC]

This feature exists. It’s just that you have to be an educational institution to use it :(

[runako]

Interesting that Apollo (Reddit client) got highlighted in the iPadOS section a week after Reddit updated their pricing to put Apollo out of business. Really sad.

[danielskogly]

Thought perhaps this was an intentional nod to that exact situation!

[harshalizee]

The "NameDrop" is one I'm surprised it took so long to come to fruition. This was a use case I've wanted in phones for over a decade.

[Heliosmaster]

Bump! app had this, in 2009. Was later acquired by Google.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(application)

[dannyw]

Probably needed UWB. After all, you don't want to be accidentally namedropping in a crowded bus or stadium.

[rwhyan]

NameDrop is going to wreck the "tap to share" startups.

cc. Popl, Linq, Dot, etc.

[joe5150]

Apple is once again making unrealistic assumptions about how many friends I have professional-quality headshots of to put into my contacts.

[gleenn]

They would provide the photo. You choose your photo and everyone else gets it which is already true with the small contact photo and name which are shared automatically.

[scop]

Not only that, but one thing that bothers me about Apple's demos is how unusual all the models are. Why can't they just look like normal people? I did see an old person who they referred to as "your neighbor" and I felt like that was the first time in awhile I had seen a "contact" in an Apple demo that wasn't some young-20 year old with some wild fashion and hair styles.

[codetrotter]

Time to start hitting up old friends and arrange photo shoots with them then!

[imbnwa]

The quality of those photos always gets me, makes me feel like Michael Douglas' character in Falling Down demanding that his burger look like the one in the advertisement.

[npunt]

Looking forward to playing with Journal, but I'm a bit underwhelmed by the preso, doesn't feel like they made it really unique vs third party journals. I was hoping for more of an integration to messages and individual app experiences, especially health. Talked about this a month ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35662525

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35662853

[operatingthetan]

I hope it will be on Mac as well because I'd rather write on the macbook over my phone.

[kristjansson]

"If you just want to type a ducking word"

[operatingthetan]

That was odd

[swyx]

1m people are watching the main stream live on youtube concurrently. wild. any idea how this compares to previous WWDC's?

[rstupek]

I'm not on YouTube so I wonder what the global audience for the keynote really is

[vkdelta]

NameDrop: sounds like a bad name for feature (negative connotation). May be they ran out of options.

[Defletter]

Remember ForceTouch? :P

[cglong]

Or they could just call it "sharing contact cards using AirDrop". Not everything they announce needs an obtuse proper noun :(

[Tsiklon]

I do wonder how many users will run into that memory limit on the M2 Ultra Mac Pro - given that the old Intel machine could do up to 1.5T of RAM.

[aaronscott]

I think the exciting thing is that it works as GPU memory. 192gb would be great for running LLMs.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36187466

[nsxwolf]

No doubt many will find 100+ gigs of GPU ram is worth closing 2 or 3 Chrome tabs.

[asadm]

We have all gathered to see... Stickers demo -_-

[rstupek]

MacPro finally announced with Apple Silicon with the new ultra chip

[love2read]

Lol, he said so I can use apollo on mac. Good luck with that soon!

[parenthesis]

I miss Steve.

[kodisha]

New keyboard gets all of the features that GBoard [1] had on iOS for the last 3+ years.

[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gboard-the-google-keyboard/id1...

[georgeburdell]

Curious to see what will stop contacts (or hackers) from setting one’s contact image to something inappropriate. A thumbnail is one thing, but a full resolution gonad picture, broadcast to others, would be a jarring experience for the recipients

[boringg]

The sound sounds overproduced.

[Rebelgecko]

I'm like 90% sure that Craig's voice is either ADR or AI generated

[vkdelta]

Auto-correct was Fucking broken and I dont know if this is really solved.

[harshalizee]

Apple's ecosystem and momentum is scary. They can just take popular apps and features and integrate them into their own OS and instantly crush startups and smaller companies to irrelevance.

AirTags -> RIP Tile

NameDrop -> Any 'bump' based app startup

Journal -> Subscription based journal apps like DayOne, etc.

and many more.

Theoretically, nothing is stopping Google from doing the same, if they ever manage to release anything without a product expiry baked into it, or just release anything really.