[jevgeni]

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[deadbolt]

I'm sorry if you're confused but we're discussing a specific thing which occurred in a war zone, not the war itself. It's certainly complicated.

Also, for what it's worth, calling people idiots will never help you. You should probably stop doing that.

[threatofrain]

If you're trying to convince people than there's a moral case against Russia and for Ukraine, then sure. If you're trying to convince people of specific operations then you do have to get down into the details.