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Manjuuu | 2 years ago

> as having a 95% effectiveness against transmission for the original strain.

95% reduction of serious illness. The objective of the mass vaccination was having as much people as possible survive the pandemic. Herd immunity was just noise. There were a lot of noise and nonsense.

> Cloth masks are objectively useless for personal protection.

Proper masks are effective as measured multiple times, tons of statistics on it.

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anthonypasq|2 years ago

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Izkata|2 years ago

And here's some links from a few months earlier showing we knew it was never tested for preventing infection/transmission:

https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/12/02/covid-19-vaccines...

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-says-no-evidence-coronav...

https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2020/12/covid-...

Here's Pfizer's press release: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

Notice how it switches between SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19? That's because they're very specifically saying it prevents sickness, and not making any claims about infection/transmission. That came months later, per your links, from media and politicians who either didn't understand or were just straight lying. The 95% they're claiming came straight from the press release which was only about sickness, not infection.

It's pretty amazing just how hard this got memory-holed.

Manjuuu|2 years ago

Actually I was not sure which kind of masks you meant so I pointed out that real masks worked, but yes, obviously cotton/silk/lines/whatever masks without any kind of filter are useless.

Don't post random "he said this, he said that" links please, there has been 0 doubt in my mind that since the release of the vaccines the only effect they had was to reduce the probability of serious illness, as repeated multiple times above.

> or are just gaslighting me as covidians have a tendency to do.

What? Cmon.