[bartq]

You're defending n(vim)+plugins, not naked (n)vim and I agree it can be taken very far and can start to look like Emacs which integrates multiple external processes in single place. Actually anything can be taken anywhere with sufficient time and effort. That's the secret of transmutation. But you won't overcome the fact it uses terminal by default which I find subpar compared to pixel perfect GUIs. Terminal UIs are useful for sure, but I see them as a hidden cry of despair when people are trying to avoid touching modern GUI systems. The strength of vim (vim motions) should be stripped away and be embeddable in any other system as a leaf, not the other way around where (n)vim is in the center and other pieces are plugged into it. I know it's happening and you can use native nvim inside e.g. VSCode which is great.

I know there are tools like GVim etc, but again, they are created with high engineering effort which for some people is simply pleasant to undertake.

Again, I'm not trying to defend or favor any system, I'm actually using at the same time VSCode (for best TS intellisense), WebStorm (for refactors), nvim (for quick browsing and small config file edits) and Emacs (for Magit). My computer is my tool, not single thing inside it.

[mekoka]

Sometimes the world can be improved. Most times it's just fine and any suggested external change should probably start from within. There are those who like letters, words, and the sound of keyboard keys. Then there are others who like pretty pictures in big buttons and the click of the mouse.

All this to suggest that perhaps you are the wrong target for text-base interfaces.

[bartq]

Why did you make it personal, let's focus on talking about things/ideas.

I'm not even trying to comment your guess about what "target" I am.