[1827163]

I think once you escape the system you don't find games or other distractions enjoyable anymore. When you're fully actualized and are capable of "going your own path", satisfaction then comes from making things and trying to improve the world. That is if you don't want to have children, as is the case with me.

I think we've been conditioned from childhood to get a job, work for the corporate world and chase material goods. All of those further the interests of those in power.

Update: Wild foraging, living with nature, moving to another country, or doing what hunter gatherers did. Running your own business. Camping out in the wild, while still making money from something. There are so many other options, you need to be creative about it...

Anyway @NoMoreNicks I've flagged your post and I'm closing this HN account down (by deleting the password)....

[NoMoreNicksLeft]

> I think we've been conditioned from childhood to get a job,

This is a hilariously millennial take on how life works. For the past million years or longer, humans learned (and quickly) that if you didn't want to starve you'd need to work to avoid that. The means to avoid starvation have changed. We're no longer hunter gatherers, and few of us are subsistence farmers--and I can have some sympathy for those who would prefer those occupations--but the truth of the matter is that nothing more than the details have changed in all that time.

People weren't "conditioning" you to get a job. They were gently introducing you to reality. It seems a little too gently, by the looks of it.

> All of those further the interests of those in power.

Huh? It furthers the interests of those who don't want to starve. But you've never even been hungry, not really, and so it's all still highly theoretical for you.

[FooBarBizBazz]

Maybe "get a job" means "join a large organization that offers W2 employment", which is -- if not completely unique to the modern West (like, maybe you were joining the Qing bureaucracy, or the East India Company, or the Roman Army) -- is at least not universal. Even today, many parts of the world are much more about small proprietors and scrappy permissionless entrepreneurship. And there are still a few hunter-gatherers. In fact, many of the identities that defined America -- like, "homesteader" -- weren't exactly "getting a job".

You can also say that we really are conditioned, by education, to slot ourselves into organizations, identify who the teacher/boss is, and do what they tell us to.

So while the past required effort, I can see how OP (1827163) could have a point.

[mnl]

Yes, but the thing is we have increased productivity tremendously because that's what our species does. So first we didn't need everyone working in the fields, after that we didn't need everyone working in the factories, and we're at this point in which we have to make up more and more absurd necessities and regulations so people have jobs, but we aren't going to need everyone doing that either. The clear socioethical paradigm that made sense after we realized that growing food was easier than hunting and foraging is heading a wall.