[thaneross]

I hate to say it but from my 20+ years in the industry, this is the norm.

[_ea1k]

It is more common than not, but it is still best to avoid such places.

[wickedsickeune]

You are absolutely correct, but there are groups within companies that don't work like that. Finding them is the hard part :|

[DoingIsLearning]

I think it mostly correlates with how technical PMs are.

People that were fairly technical prior to deciding to move to PM roles, those you can actually explain the context and reason with.

PMs that are more biased towards Business/Marketing are big on C Level networking etc., those are the ones that feel they are doing a good job if they try to bleed a stone with deadlines. They are adversarial like GP mentions and not someone you can reason with.