[stopnamingnuts]

This is a pretty good summary of how I feel and why I dig my heels in every time my wife starts talking about a new camper, a boat or whatever. I suspect she envisions it like a magazine cover: better, carefree versions of ourselves enjoying the sunshine with friends (who are ideally green with envy).

I see myself disassembling the toilet.

[stewarts]

Boats are just holes in the water you throw money into.

Campers, I actually agree with you and that's as someone on his second purchase. But, my agreement comes in the form that I believe everyone should baby step their way in. Tent camp at an improved campground (meaning, at least a toilet onsite. Plumbing very optional and probably not happening). If your crew enjoy it, then it makes sense to step up but I'd still go small. Small towable/travel trailer. By that point, you'll know what you want/need.

[prawn]

For a couple, might be worth considering putting a roof top tent on a 4x4, and put a kitchen set up in the back of the vehicle. Can be an affordable and efficient combo.

[prawn]

You need to be the sorts of people for whom the highs make it worthwhile. For me, that's what I live for - adventuring around, seeing things, getting away. So I tolerate the stress, the costs, trying to find somewhere safe to sleep in a random forest after midnight, etc. Otherwise, it's a lot more hassle and getting the new camper doesn't just make it all easy. You're still vying for popular camping spots, still trying to get time off work when you want it, etc.

[iancmceachern]

Me too. If I didn't do this stuff I don't know what I'd do with myself, with my energy, focus, etc.