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kuhaku22 | 2 years ago

Unfortunately, this approach cannot solve the clickbait problem, because it is baked into the videos themselves. If someone is using clickbait for their videos, the video itself is very likely to be low quality. The rise of clickbait has led to content creators doing things like exaggerating reactions, misrepresenting things for views, putting on overexcited voices, etc.

It's just the same as how the creator's previous work, SponsorBlock, can only put a bandaid on things, because ad incentives lead to creators padding out their videos to 10 minutes, causing the videos to be needlessly long and rambling. Not to mention videos where the entire content itself is an advertisement.

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kruuuder|2 years ago

> If someone is using clickbait for their videos, the video itself is very likely to be low quality.

I disagree. There are many creators that produce content that I consider high quality that use clickbait thumbnails and titles. If they don't, they have a disadvantage because of the metrics the YouTube recommendation algorithm uses.

gunshai|2 years ago

Veritasium is a good example of this.

satvikpendem|2 years ago

> the video itself is very likely to be low quality

This is incorrect, lots of educational channels use clickbait because otherwise they simply won't be as successful and would not be able to sustain themselves. Veritasium does a video on exactly this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng

jxramos|2 years ago

3:01 they had to decrease the importance of subscribers

That explains a lot of the experience recently, I was thinking about my old subscriptions and why they haven't made a poke in a while.

I wonder can I make my browser redirect youtube.com to actually open https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions ?

ajayyy|2 years ago

Here is a reply I made in the past to a similar complaint

> It's not just the Linus Tech Tips or the Mr Beasts of the world doing algorithm optimized titles and thumbnails now. Even really great channels like Tom Scott, CGP Grey, and Kurzgesagt are falling for the trap now.

> And I don't blame them! That's what's needed to survive on the platform these days. It's a race to the bottom.

> DeArrow hopes to solve this. DeArrow puts everyone on a level playing field. There is no race to the bottom since no one is allowed to be algorithmically optimized. It pauses the race, and let's the true best videos rise to the top.

While a niche extension of course can't remove all bad incentives, it still brings out the videos that actually are good themselves, ignoring the branding they were put in.