[carlysagan]

It sounds to me like you are admitting that women often provide the crucial ideas and then are dis-credited. What direction would any work take without the initial idea? Lol. Even when a female has the idea and does all the work (ah-hem), a man will come along, steal the idea, claim it as his own, and suddenly be the one with a multi-million dollar seed deal or Nobel Prize or whatever. That is the reality that I have seen over and over.

[eastbound]

You have a selective vision of the world if that is your conclusion. Plenty of examples of the opposite, I can’t convince you with just one example, so you’ll have to take a friendlier look at men, and once you find the pattern where men aren’t recognized for a particular deed, you’ll find it everywhere and in as great quantity as women.

Concerning Marie Curie, maybe if we could agree on another example than one 120 years ago, that would revive the proof. As far as I’m concerned, every time someone cites Marie Curie, it rather confirms that we haven’t been doing that for the last 120 years, otherwise you’d cite a contemporary example. But the problem of contemporary examples, is that we’re here to analyze them, and they don’t generally hold the scrutinity. I don’t know for Marie Curie, I wasn’t there.