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juve1996 | 2 years ago

> Because no one would actually be better off. Prices would instantly double. It's just a change of units, like going from getting paid in $ to getting paid the same amount in ยข.

This is so basic but so many people miss it. I have continually explained this to my parents. It doesn't matter how good your 401k is doing if it leads to eggs being $12 a dozen in your retirement.

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autoexec|2 years ago

Historically, that hasn't happened when worker's wages increased. Prices do tend to go up (they always do) but not to the degree that it makes the wage increases worthless. When minimum wages go up, workers lives improve. Also, when companies don't have an excuse, consumers simply won't pay $12 for a dozen eggs. Every consumer has some idea of what things are worth and if a company tries to jack prices up for no reason consumers feel cheated and stop paying.

There's zero reason why companies can't all just triple their prices right now, except that if they did, people wouldn't pay and their profits would drop. Companies constantly test consumer's acceptance of price increases and usually only increment their prices slowly so that the next generation they rip off doesn't know any better having always grown up with the slightly higher prices.

The supply shortages of the pandemic broke the system. It gave every company an excuse for price gouging, and at first, much of that was legitimate supply/demand and consumers were understanding. Then as the supply of goods came back they started using the inflation narrative (complete with "printed money" excuse) to justify further increasing prices, but now we have a growing pile of evidence that they were lying and were just pocketing the extra money. Naturally, and rightly, people are starting to feel ripped off.

juve1996|2 years ago

You make an assumptions that is false. 1. Minimum wage increases != wage increases. It's a small subset. The poorest of the poor is never the problem.

> Every consumer has some idea of what things are worth and if a company tries to jack prices up for no reason consumers feel cheated and stop paying.

The recent inflation proves otherwise. Many costs have remained sticky for no added benefit. If this was true then we would never have inflation - because the inflation the last 2 years has been so extreme that your belief should have come to pass without any help and much earlier when the supply shocks subsided.

> Then as the supply of goods came back they started using the inflation narrative (complete with "printed money" excuse) to justify further increasing prices,

This just proves the point further - consumers continued spending despite the rising costs. But now you'll say they're only now started to feel ripped off? Seems awfully convenient for your argument, but isn't consistent. What is consistent is that raising interest rates have helped somewhat.

The fed is doing the right thing and yes it impacts wages as it impacts other asset classes. Again, if your eggs cost 300% more but your wages increased, it doesn't matter, in the end you're still likely losing.