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anktor | 2 years ago

This type of comments can be seen every single time a thread about LLM, or OpenAI or some such comes up.

And it adds nothing. I'm sorry but saying "Whether that content is used to train a human mind or an artificial one is probably not up to you" may be worse than saying nothing at all.

First because it shows enough doubt on whether it's up to the authors of content (IP laws, fair use, intent of the use, and many things I ignore), while giving no laws as an example or frame of reference.

And second because it's comparing a human mind that we know exist, to an artificial one, which implies:

1. An LLM is an artificial mind, or close to one, whatever that is (again, not defined).

2. If they were to exist, they would be both equivalent and treated the same as a human one.

The amount of jumps in a couple sentences, added to the uncertainty of how copyright would/will work, multiplied by the numer of times I/we read that type of comment every single time, it's getting tiresome. And it's adding noise to the noise-signal ratio.

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munchler|2 years ago

I think you’ve missed the point. Copyright laws prevent others from copying your work without permission. (Hence the name.) Copyright laws say nothing about who can read your work.

If you want to prevent a web spider from scraping your blog, use a captcha or robots.txt. Copyright law doesn’t apply to this scenario.

93po|2 years ago

I disagree, and though the GP maybe didn't have this sentiment, my personal view is that intellectual property is a bunch of crap and just because there are laws around it in our capitalist society doesn't mean that the laws are moral/just/ethical/good. IP is constantly ingested and transformed which is exactly what LLMs are doing. The fact that ChatGPT can't even accurately reproduce data from its training (it gets basic facts/dates/quotes wrong all the time) really reinforces that it's not infringing on anyone's IP.

If you're tired of responding to these comments then stop. It's the internet, everyone is at different places in exploring topics and having discussions. Don't poo-poo on someone else's journey and instead move on with your day. There is no required reading (other than TFA) on hacker news.