[priime0]

> Clearly split Racket (and typed Racket) the language, evolution of scheme and Racket the PLT framework use to build and construct new languages.

It's very much possible to use Racket without interacting with macros and language-building features.

> Racket / typed Racket should focus on more production/libraries for regular programmer

Libraries are dependent on the community, which unfortunately is comprised of mostly academic folk at the moment.

> DrRacket always felt and looked alien to me. I can't really judge the feature set, but having vscode as the defacto IDE i think would be it more welcoming

I do agree -- if I remember correctly, DrRacket was primarily built as a pedagogic IDE, not one meant for more professional use. VSCode, however, does have the "Magic Racket" extension.

> This one is will definitively be controversial but introduce a "curly brace"/C style syntax for Racket.

Not necessarily C-style syntax, but you could take a look at Rhombus. It's meant to have a more approachable syntax compared to S-expressions.

[soulbadguy]

> It's very much possible to use Racket without interacting with macros and language-building features.

I would say that macros are integral part of Racket, maybe event the best part.

But point is not about what is possible, it's really about what is the default/obvious part. It wasn't a comment on racket the language, but more about the environement around the language.

> Libraries are dependent on the community, which unfortunately is comprised of mostly academic folk at the moment.

I am not sure what point you are making here. Julia has a very very strong academic community, but the library ecosystem seems more production ready and actionable.

> Not necessarily C-style syntax, but you could take a look at Rhombus. It's meant to have a more approachable syntax compared to S-expressions.

Rhombus seems to be more than just alternate syntax. And how is the progress on this thing ?

I think to make racket more mainstream would need more than things that are "possible", or available etc... It probably need a cohesive story and experience around those, and that story to be at the for front on how Racket present itself : vs code extension as the main IDE, alt syntax + better libraries.