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bioemerl | 2 years ago

We need them to give to Ukraine, no? I would suggest they are preventing harm in that case.

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The mods here apparently think responding to the Russian influence campaigns on their site is worthy of a shadow ban.

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yasp|2 years ago

Why do we need to give them to Ukraine?

HWR_14|2 years ago

If Ukraine fights off Russia, then the chances of Russia invading a NATO country would fall to almost zero. It would also substantially reduce the chances that China invades Taiwan. Those would both be very expensive to the US. Much cheaper just to give Ukraine weapons.

ArnoVW|2 years ago

Because if we don't, Russia will show the world that might makes right. And China will take Taiwan, etc.

Like peace in society, international peace exists because aggressive elements make an economic calculation, and stay calm. Once that math changes you get riots and wars.

Like when the US gave stingers to the Afghani, we don't support Ukraine for moral reasons (perhaps partly) but mainly because it's in our interest.

vorpalhex|2 years ago

Ukraine got invaded by a foreign power that is committing war crimes, taking territory that isn't theirs and repeatedly threatening other neighboring countries.

bioemerl|2 years ago

Because Ukraine is a democratic state/western ally being invaded by it's much bigger and meaner neighbor and will cease to exist if we do not help them defend themselves.

We don't have to give them to Ukraine, but doing so generally furthers our interests.

VincentEvans|2 years ago

Curious, it appears it’s not as prevalent as I would expected - to see an obvious injustice and cruel atrocity being committed - and feel satisfaction seeing that the victim is getting assistance.

InCityDreams|2 years ago

>Why do we need to give them to Ukraine?

You don't have to, but I would regard it as prudent: so that the USA - and many other countries - don't become like, or part of, Russia. Think of Ukraine as being somewhat similar to Vietnam. If Ukraine falls, then Taiwan is fucked, North Korea will fuck Japan and just plain say goidbye to Europe (socialist bastards that we are).