[ottoflux]

you make good points but i'd argue it's both. i'm talking about the subconscious bias aspect of racism (to your point it's a relic of racism, but it's an active relic) as well - this is the very reason we need DE&I. we're 3 to 4 years into it and still non-marginalized folks don't seem to fully understand the problem.

i feel like "talk to an African American of privilege" and what follows is incorrect. i know and have known a lot of well off Black friends and associates and they all have stories - there are a lot of racists in the north too, they just act a little different.

[jaredhallen]

My issue isn't with the ostensible spirit or intent of DEI programs. The concept sounds great. The problem is the corporate implementations are transparently inauthentic and insincere. It's abundantly clear that the real intent is PR and compliance, not some altruistic desire for fairness.

[ottoflux]

This is totally true more often than not (in my experience).