[jhartwig]

'actual stupidity'... gotta love the general disdain of the 'run of the mill business drone'... It's funny my wife is a run of the mill business drone. She thinks IT is a bunch of assholes. I would say she is probably right. Way to keep things going.

[majesticglue]

and IT "assholes" think the run of the mill business drones are "assholes" as well. Their inability to be effective at their jobs tend to make IT lives worse because they can't understand what IT workers do but IT workers can understand what the basic run of the mill business drones do...and their work tends to be a bunch of pointless meetings.

Yeah, I work at a corporate office and have made it a mission to see what kind of work they do, and majority of the time...it's pointless meetings and meetings that involve pointing to IT workers and saying "do this". I check many of their daily schedules, and see what kind of stuff they talk about in meetings...just wow. Am I an "asshole"? Sure you can call me that, but I can call them useless in turn because I wonder how many more qualified people out there who can replace these workers.

[jmye]

> but IT workers can understand what the basic run of the mill business drones do...and their work tends to be a bunch of pointless meetings.

What an ironic comment.

Sorry, any early-career worker looking down their nose at anyone else (or pretending to have any idea what their job entails, especially because they “looked at a calendar”) might as well go back to middle school. They definitely need to grow up.

[totallywrong]

> and IT "assholes" think the run of the mill business drones are "assholes" as well. Their inability to be effective at their jobs tend to make IT lives worse because they can't understand what IT workers

Have you ever dealt with an average IT department in a non-tech company? This attitude doesn't help anyone and I really want to believe that only a small minority of tech people think of any other worker anywhere as an "asshole".

[Bloating]

reminds me of the saying "don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that guy behind the tree".

Its always us vs them.

[Dylan16807]

I someone can't be retrained, and it's not because they're being stubborn, what other reason do you have?

Is it better or worse to assume they're being a problem on purpose?

I won't say 'average' but I will say 'common enough to make changing software a huge issue'.

[PhasmaFelis]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36601986

[ramranch]

Many devs are the same, hence loyalty to a language

[DropInIn]

Who's the a-hole:

The person trying to make things better and seeks out knowledge at great cost

Or

The person who is willfully ignorant and actively refuses knowledge handed on a platter?

Because one of those is the typical IT pro and the other is the worker drone....

[mr_toad]

Don’t worry, the people in IT don’t like the other people in IT. Devs think that security are a bunch of a-holes, DBAs hate the devs, etc etc.

[username135]

lol

Seriously, some looking down the nose comments