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cr__ | 2 years ago

I don’t think marginalized folks’ struggles to get afforded basic dignity are great joke fodder.

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thfuran|2 years ago

Do you think things like removing "blacklist" from open source projects are meaningfully related to marginalized folks' struggles to get afforded basic dignity?

cubefox|2 years ago

Not to mention removing "master" as the main branch name in Git.

beepbooptheory|2 years ago

If those people are saying it is, then you gotta take their word for it.

But it is beside the point! Whether or not any given effort is actually meaningful or not will be always hard to measure. But the world around prompts us to at least try, and making light of people trying to do something good, however wrongheaded it might turn out to be, is always a jerk move.

This tendency to try and call out things like this is always so illogical. Those who protest, always seem to protest a little to much, and I can never understand how they don't see that and how bad it makes them look!

refulgentis|2 years ago

It's nice to be nice to people.

This is the sort of argument that seems silly to your kids, because there's no reason not to.

You're arguing from a place of "why?" against "why not?", it's not some grand civilizational struggle, and it's completely off-topic for this article, especially escalating it. Very woke.

connorgutman|2 years ago

It's basically effortless to implement such changes and helps foster a more inclusive and educated online community. Why can't we aim to right all wrongs? Just because there's more pressing issues doesn't mean we can't tackle all forms of injustice.

lmm|2 years ago

I don't think any of the code of conduct stuff is being driven by marginalized folks - indeed it's usually a stick that people from privileged backgrounds use to beat those from more marginalized ones. Which, well, you have to laugh or cry.

colechristensen|2 years ago

I think performative acts in a one-upsmanship race to who can be the most socially conscious are excellent joke fodder. In other words, the topics of these stupid code of conduct arguments have nothing at all to do with anybody's actual struggle or dignity, but just a sign that folks are running out of easy real battles to fight so they're making up new ones because they've not got much better to do.

cubefox|2 years ago

It's a virtue signalling treadmill. Demanding term X to be banned, because it is allegedly harmful, signals the unusually high virtue of the demander. But as soon as the term is actually banned, there isn't any more virtue to be gained from being against it, so some other term has to be declared harmful next. Ad infinitum.

mindslight|2 years ago

I wouldn't say we're "running out" of real battles to fight. It's more like an analog of Gresham's law or the Bikeshed problem.

refulgentis|2 years ago

Are they that, or is that your opinion?

Is your opinion on that on-topic?