[liorben-david]

What's their DAU in a week going to be?

A junior dev could build a working twitter clone in a couple weeks; tech was never Twitter's moat.

Twitter had a first mover advantage and got the community of microbloggers. Mastodon and now threads aren't going to fully coopt that community -- And they need to fully coopt it to win.

There are too many people who won't touch a Facebook product with a 10-foot pole(Myself included), so there's a whole group of users, especially academics and technologists, who will never seriously use threads

[mariusor]

> A junior dev could build a working twitter clone in a couple weeks; tech was never Twitter's moat.

Aren't we over saying things like that? That's Dunning-Krueger speak. The bits that you see as a user are just the tip of the iceberg required to support hundreds of thousands of tweets per minute that Twitter currently is capable of.

[liorben-david]

Ya you're right, my junior dev comment was stupid. I think I stand by the tech not being the significant moat here.

[vxNsr]

he's not entirely wrong though, there's an online bootcamp dedicated to literally doing this, using AWS as the backend, might take more than a few weeks but the point is that until you start to worry about web-scale a jr dev could do the implementation of front-end/back-end in a month or two.

[za3faran]

> A junior dev could build a working twitter clone in a couple weeks; tech was never Twitter's moat.

Real life is not a white board design interview.

[holistio]

Mastodon, Threads, Bluesky, T2.social...

I really expected we'd end up going towards a standard with various clients.

Instead this.

[rsynnott]

Mastodon is ActivityPub, Threads will apparently implement ActivityPub, Bluesky has its own standard it wants others to implement, t2 seems to be a straight-up "let's make Twitter again" effort.

Honestly, at this stage I don't think the existence of two standards is all that bad?

(If in 10 years half the world is on ActivityPub and the other half is on the Bluesky thing, that might be annoying, granted, but this early on multiple standards is kind of expected)

[pierat]

> Mastodon and now threads aren't going to fully coopt that community -- And they need to fully coopt it to win.

And that's the problem with end-stage capitalist thought. Mastodon isn't trying to "win". Never has been.

Mastodon was all about creating a non-commercial community of people talking with each other. It was done so to prevent the inexorable enshittification process of a for-profit social network that must raise the walls of communication higher and higher to extract smaller slices of profit.

But no, Mastodon does not "need" to win. We're not even playing the same game. Winning in our collective cases is being able to talk with friends without being psychological-advert games, fuckyoupayme demands, bulk selling data to anyone who pays, forced viewing of advertiser content, or a multitude of new scams made by the advertiser committees.

And threads.net is still unblocked at my instance. We're waiting to see how it's going to play out. If they somehow, some way, actually act like a proper steward of the fediverse, I wouldn't mind talking with their users over federation. But if they allow or otherwise enable the wasteland facebook has created, fediblock'em.