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null4bl3 | 2 years ago

The thing that tickles my conspiracy theorist, is that the outbreak originated 2 km from the lab that gain-of-function research into SARS-2 strains was outsourced to.

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duckhelmet|2 years ago

> The thing that tickles my conspiracy theorist, is that the outbreak originated 2 km from the lab that gain-of-function research into SARS-2 strains was outsourced to

“Wuhan lab workers were sick in November 2019, intelligence suggests”

https://www.livescience.com/covid-lab-leak-wuhan.html

atherton33|2 years ago

Could be correlation. There's pretty plausible reason to have a cutting edge research lab close to the highest risk place for natural outbreaks of the viruses it studies.

tripletao|2 years ago

It's amazing that people are still repeating this line. Dr. Shi's sampling trips were to Yunnan and surroundings, ~900 miles away. Expected prevalence of SARS-like coronaviruses in the Wuhan population was low enough that they used blood samples from Wuhan as negative controls in antibody studies. (Of course that expectation could have been incorrect; but the idea that her research group was deliberately based in a region of expected natural spillover is unquestionably wrong.)

Also, the WIV was more than 2 km from the market; the grandparent is probably thinking of a different, closer lab. The market was definitely the first big super-spreader event, but not necessarily the site of introduction into humans; the earliest cases show much less clear geographic distribution.

There's no conclusive evidence for any origin of SARS-CoV-2 yet. The ODNI report clearly leans against a research-related origin, but no one except the LA Times's "business columnist" is claiming that they "debunked" anything.

duckhelmet|2 years ago

> Could be correlation. There's pretty plausible reason to have a cutting edge research lab close to the highest risk place for natural outbreaks of the viruses it studies.

The bat virus they were doing gain-of-function research on at the Wuhan Lab came from miles away.

"Inside the risky bat-virus engineering that links America to Wuhan"

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/06/29/1027290/gain-of-...