[realitythreek]

The way to look at this is that this is what happens when you don’t have safe and legal medical abortions.

Also this is one of the reasons why e2e encryption is so important. Meta had to comply with a warrant and wouldn’t have had to comply if it was impossible for them to.

[smoldesu]

End-to-end encryption only prevents in-flight access of the data by your ISP. At either "end" that data can be trivially decrypted, and probably isn't even stored on an encrypted server to boot. It would require a lot more than E2EE to meaningfully resist government surveillance.

[realitythreek]

Just to clarify one possible misconception, the two ends would be the mother and daughter’s phones in this case. Meta shouldn’t have the key to decrypt accessible to them.

You’re absolutely correct that it can be decrypted on either end but Meta should resist putting a backdoor in their app that allows this. If no other reason than it compels them to be in the middle of this criminal case.

Also Facebook Messenger already enables this (https://www.facebook.com/help/messenger-app/1084673321594605) but it’s not the default. It should be.

This is just basic privacy and for sure won’t protect you from a focused government attack but it’s a start.

[tzs]

> The way to look at this is that this is what happens when you don’t have safe and legal medical abortions.

Most places with legal abortions don't seem to allow them at 28 weeks so that would not have helped in this case.

[realitythreek]

One assumes they would have taken care of it during the legal timeframe. Not relevant if they didn’t in this case.

There’s also other options still by going to other states, but the point is that by making it illegal you’re increasing the chances of it being unsafe.

But anyway, that’s as far as I’m wading into that subject here. Don’t feel like getting into politics so much as practicalities.