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nateberkopec | 2 years ago

I volunteered for a SAR team in the US southwest for 5 years, the last half of that or so we had an active drone unit.

Drones are good at covering terrain that's difficult to traverse on foot. Canyons, cliff walls, the like. As some of the rescues on the site show, they're also good for getting another angle that's not human-being eye level, which is sometimes all you need to spot a clue or subject.

Drones are not very good at covering large areas of ground quickly. It's also extremely difficult to spot anything small than an entire human being on the drone's camera. That means you miss valuable things like bootprints, pieces of equipment, etc.

They're a very useful tool in the toolbox, but I don't see them replacing human beings until image recognition technology gets another level-up. "Recognize a human being or signs of one with the background of literally any possible terrain on Earth" is a bit beyond what's field-deployable at the moment.

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dmix|2 years ago

> It's also extremely difficult to spot anything small than an entire human being on the drone's camera. That

One of the articles mentioned a local fire dept had a drone with thermals which helped find a 14yr old boy lost in a remote area. That would certainly help. From the videos I’ve seen from Ukraine thermals are a huge advantage for finding people.

nateberkopec|2 years ago

That may be true. My unit didn't have a thermal camera setup. However, we're not always looking for live subjects that will give off a thermal signature, and thermal cameras don't help with spotting inanimate objects. I would say we found signs of the subject's passage (equipment, footsteps) 80% of the time before finding the actual subject.

tonyarkles|2 years ago

> Drones are not very good at covering large areas of ground quickly.

I work with imaging drones in agriculture and every time we run the numbers the answer is almost always fixed wing. We have multirotors that have no problem flying at 80+km/h, but the battery life kills our ability to cover broad areas of land without having to land and swap batteries. With fixed-wing you get (depending on many factors) a ~10:1 efficiency improvement but also need significantly more skill as a pilot and potentially more infrastructure (e.g. a viable runway of some kind). VTOL fixed wings have some potential, but the takeoff and landing burns so much battery that you lose a lot of the advantages of the fixed wing.

Vox_Leone|2 years ago

I am developing CV systems for agribusiness and have been grappling with this issue. The solution seems to be a combination of the two systems. Quads are great for some tasks like herd detection/sorting/counting and spotting problems in planting. For crop dusting, seed planting, geo surveys in general you go with fixed wings.

Wojtkie|2 years ago

Hmm, what about a launcher? Slingshot the drone any number of ways, then "landing" can be handled by an arrestor net.

mywacaday|2 years ago

How long before someone just gets as close as possible in a truck and deploys 100s of autonomous drones in a swarm to scan an area in detail and report anything significant?

Cthulhu_|2 years ago

I mean the technology for controlling drones like that is there, given these drone airshows. But it's a ton of data that needs to be processed, it may be a capacity and bandwidth issue / challenge as well.

Give it time, I'd say. Only a matter of time before there's drones autonomously mapping out big areas and computers assembling the data.

viggity|2 years ago

Was your drone a fixed wing or rotary wing? The battery life is always getting better, but I have to imagine the flight time on a fixed wing has got to just crush a quadcopter, although I think they're more difficult for a novice to fly.

saargrin|2 years ago

a dual camera drone like Mavic 2ET is pretty good at spotting humans at pretty long distances even in brush/ trees