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TheFattestNinja | 2 years ago

I'm not familiar with this notion (or much of German's political scene). Can you elaborate why the Greens are known fronts for the CIA there? (as in, what are giveaways?)

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rainworld|2 years ago

The way they immediately threw away their pacifism in favour of US-led interventionism when the Cold War ended. Unsurprisingly, it was also them screaming for military support for Ukraine instead of pushing for talks. Scholz at least feigned reluctance for a while.

The deindustrialization of Germany they are spearheading.

Remember, in the words of its first Secretary General, the purpose of NATO (and US posture towards Europe in general) is “to keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.” That has not substantially changed. A hypothetical alliance between Germany and Russia is a nightmare for them and they would (and in fact do) go to great lengths to prevent it.

bitsinthesky|2 years ago

Remember, you can't support freedom, security, civil society, quality of life and democracy for Eastern Europeans unless you're paid off by the CIA

And the economic and political heavy weight of the EU, Germany, would only be stronger if NATO wasn't oppressing them

q87b|2 years ago

And where is the alleged connection to the CIA there?

The quote you pulled from the first(!) Secretary General of NATO is from 80 years ago. At the time it was said, 80 years ago was 1870, shortly after the American Civil War, just to give some perspective.

watwut|2 years ago

> Unsurprisingly, it was also them screaming for military support for Ukraine instead of pushing for talks.

Maaaan, that is just in the interest of Germany and generally any Western country. It was also the only moral and ethical position. One does not need to be paid by CIA to see this invasion and genocide for what they are.