[unholyguy001]

Generally in a healthy org it’s more like 8-10 direct reports per line manager.

At 200 people you should probably be still at around 3 levels deep. The VP Eng with 8 line managers could easily run a 70 person engineering team

Maybe throw in a single director to help share the load and for succession planning

But I agree likely what is happening is too many managers with smallish numbers of directs creating a lot of unnecessary layers and then all the extra management work that comes with that