[shadowfox]

> At least in the US we (try) and make donations public. The places where it’s “banned” are black holes.

That is definitely an interesting take. So, is your ideal society one where anybody is allowed to give and take bribes as long as it is public?

[monero-xmr]

I think the world is so complex that a politician - especially the sort democracies typically elect - cannot be expected to be an expert in all subjects and things they are supposed to vote on and make rules for. Lacking perfect knowledge, they must rely on outside advice, directly from those affected or indirectly from their assistants and technocrats who advise them. At all points it’s possible to manipulate the outcome.

Given that influence and manipulation is impossible to stamp out, and then realizing that some of those that want to influence are some of the richest and most powerful entities on earth, I would personally rather allow lobbying and donations to be legal, but require all of it to be public. That way you can tell who is taking money from who.

Otherwise, it’s just the mafia and insiders games all the way up the chain.

[ryandrake]

> Lacking perfect knowledge, they must rely on outside advice, directly from those affected or indirectly from their assistants and technocrats who advise them.

There is a huge dufference between “subject matter expert advises lawmaker to vote some way” and “business tycoon hands a bag of money to lawmaker to vote some way.” Somehow, America has equated the two, and considers them equally acceptable.