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alsiola | 2 years ago

Here's a short list of things the current citizens of England didn't do:

- Genocide against the people who lived in America

- Bring India to its knees, from one of the richest to one of the most impoverished nations in the world

- Addict China to opium

- Irish potato famine

Furthermore, the narrative that Scotland is subservient to England, and not equally complicit in the historical crimes of the *union of England and Scotland* is misleading. The 1707 Acts of Union [1] were introduced by both nations.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1707

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blagie|2 years ago

If:

- Your father became rich as an inventor, creating wonderful gadgets which improved the world

- My father was a warlord

- My father murdered your father, and stole $1M from him;

- invested it; and as a result

- my family now has $1B

- your family is deeply in poverty

You're poor, uneducated, and hungry. I'm at Harvard, have a trust fund, and in connected political circles. I haven't done anything wrong myself, but I did inherit blood money.

What should happen?

It's not obvious.

Great-great-grandfather?

On the Scotland point, all I can say is that it's more complicated than you present. I did NOT present a narrative of either Scotland as subservient to England, and my exact phrasing was that it has a "mixed history with England." I stand by that. I don't think "equally complicit" is any more accurate than "subservient." The last Scottish independence vote was a 45/55 split.

As for "current citizens," you can look up more recent colonial issues, like the Mau Mau Rebellion.