[CiTyBear]

Many people complain about the time you need to have a proper vim. In computer security, I learnt to make my own tools, to develop my own script that match what I want to do/scan.

For vim, this is exactly the same. I started with Python so my vim became the best Python IDE (for me) and that's all. What I said to junior dev is "Here my vim conf, you are allowed to copy/paste only what you understand". Then I did some Typescript and added a configuration that works for me. Thus, some pain point came from my old config in python, I found new good plugins and added them. And so on with rust and ruby. Everything is commited so now, on a new machine, it takes me the time to copy/paste my config and write :PlugInstall.

Everytime I test vscode, it does not do what I want and when I look into it, I can't configure it correctly. Vim has always my back.

[majkinetor]

Indeed, yet I switched to vscode after 10 years of vim because it is next in line to vim when powerfull editor is in question, and once you set it up you can have it 0 on-boarding everywhere else working on ANY machine you use, including browser. I use a lot of machines and I want my editor with me. Its mind blowing that you can just login in GitHubs vscode within a web browser on any repository and have your own vscode with config, hotkeys, extensions and whatnot, the same as on the desktop.

I do miss vim editing constantly, and I could never feel vim emulations as a native thing, but vscode is really awesome, particularly its keyboard centric design and sync.

Once vim has this "works everywhere and my setup installs in 1 command" I will get back to it.

[lawn]

For me it feels easy to migrate my config.

Just copy/clone the dotfiles, launch neovim and run a command to update the plugins and everything is good to go.

[wredue]

I mean. Helix is a pretty decent editor with a nice set of defaults over vim.

Not as customizable. But I pretty much would configure vim to do what helix does out of the box anyway.

[lvass]

>just login in GitHubs vscode

Imagine if you had to do that to every program you want to configure. Sure, rsync/git cloning your config may be less straightforward than logging in somewhere, but it's far more convenient when you have to configure dozens of programs anyway.

[DropInIn]

And then a coworker/boss is at your desk with you and needs to show you how to do something and cannot for the life of them grok wtf your personalized bs is, requiring them to go get their own absurdly personalized mess to show you, and still you both have problems because the workload they showed you tonsave an hour a day would require you to pull out massive chunks of your personalized bs in order to add in a huge chunk of their personalized bs.

And that doesn't even get into what happens on shared machines (servers etc) where your entire workflow either doesn't work or entirely prevents others from being able to get anything done on the machine.

Really.... we all recognize the value of standardization when it comes to our code but yall fight tooth and nail about standardization in other aspects of the profession.... and then wonder why everything is a buggy unintelligible mess at 99% of workplaces and projects...

[Shorel]

This reads so much like that macho programmer who wrote everything in assembler from a few decades ago.

I will keep using Sublime Text. No need to suffer needlessly.

[Draiken]

> that macho programmer

Why do people keep making value judgements about people that built tools they trust like they should be ashamed or something like that?

Parent simply explained his process and why he uses vim like that and why he doesn't like VSCode. There's nothing there that says "macho" in any shape or form. I don't understand this need to put labels on others like this. Maybe it makes people feel better about their own choices? Helps with insecurity? I don't know.

Whatever it is, this doesn't add to the conversation at all.

[troyvit]

This sounds like a refutation, but it's also in the same spirit as the parent. "No need to deal with insane complexities, I'll stick with my simple editor." Whether that's vim or Sublime, that answer works, and that's pretty cool.

[IceDane]

This is pretty ironic, given that Sublime Text is basically dead in terms of community, number of users, etc and definitely isn't a full IDE.

[_mis1]

> Everytime I test vscode, it does not do what I want and when I look into it, I can't configure it correctly. Vim has always my back.

Can you expand on this? What specifically does not work for you on vscode?

[CiTyBear]

I don't believe in 10x programmer and know this term only from HN. I live in France and after 10years programming, I never heard a collegue said "I am a 10x programmer". However, I always make sure any git project can be worked on with any IDE. I use vim, some use PyCharm and most of them use VScode and it works fine.

However, I can tell you my main pain point in using VS code vs vim: project switching. Many times I have to go quickly to another project and close it. When I code in vim this this :

ctrl+Z (go back to term) workon project_2 vim ctrl+P (select the file I need to see or quickly edit or show to a colleage to explain) :q! (let's say I didn't edit anything) fg (Go back to my main task)

Did not know how to be that fast to open/close project with a _real_ IDE.

To oppose this, there is one feature I envy of vs code: code in docker through ssh seamlessly. Unfortunately this is not even available in vscodium.

[cauthon]

what's the current recommended package manager for vim? I used to use vundle but that seems to be unmaintained/deprecated and has broken on recent installs.

[rraghur]

Lazy.vim. Long time plug user... Recently migrated to lazy and haven't been disappointed. Fixes a number of niggles I had with vim plug

[be_erik]

For me it’s plug. It just works.