[asfasfo]

postman was essentially built as a easy GUI version of curl. Once it went the VC route it kinda jumped the shark.

[munchbunny]

It also has useful automation for dealing with things like OAuth which would be annoying to handle manually (or to script) with curl.

In general I like Postman because of the ergonomics, not because it does something that more primordial tools can't. Makes debugging easier.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

Agreed. Postman is a classic victim of "Enshittification" to try to recoup the VC money.

I prefer this VS Code plugin for the very simple stuff https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=humao.re...

I'm sure there's a gap for a "better postman" that's more complex that that, but a lot less encrusted than postman.

However IMHO, the more complex scripted testing is better done in your main dev language

Source: I have been working with Postman a lot this week. It's bad.

[ethbr0]

https://insomnia.rest/download

Like Postman, without all the bullshit. Which is to say, like a few-versions-ago Postman.

[josephd79]

I use this VS Code plugin https://www.thunderclient.com/

[candiddevmike]

> X was essentially built as a easy GUI version of Y. Once it went the VC route it kinda jumped the shark.

Pretty much applies to a lot of startups. VC money does weird things.

[BerislavLopac]

Not "weird" -- that's literally the operational model of VC. It is all about increasing the valuation of the invested company, as quickly as possible, and then selling it while the evaluation is high. Once a company gets VC investment, this is the only route that matters (unless the board somehow resists the dominance of the VC shareholders, which is extremely difficult to achieve).