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Kevin Mitnick has died

3699 points| thirtyseven | 2 years ago |dignitymemorial.com

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josh2600|2 years ago

Mitnick was a hacker hero of mine in my youth. I think I’ve understood his role as jester prior to conviction less as I’ve grown older, but there’s something about the boyhood charm of being so divorced from the potential consequences of one’s actions that is almost unique.

Mitnick had so many stories that entranced the people around him. I heard one second hand of Mitnick dealing with a bank who had early voice verification software. Upon meeting the CEO he gave the executive his card and departed for the evening. Arriving back at his hotel, he called the CEO and asked him to read his phone number to him. The phone number contained all ten digits which Mitnick had neatly tape recorded so as to make the CEO’s voice reproducible. He then proceeded to use the bank’s vocal banking system to transfer $1 from the CEO’s account to his as the authentication mechanism was reading out your own account number in your voice.

When Mitnick arrived back in the board room the architect of the voice verification system was crestfallen and the bank CEO delivered a check on a silver platter.

Now how much of that tale is embellished I will never know as it was second hand, but that was the kind of whimsy Mitnick brought to our world.

Rest in Power.

eduction|2 years ago

He has the CEO’s number and successfully calls him, and through some miracle gets through directly to ask this trivial question — as opposed to getting the number from the assistant who answers his phone - sure ok but then under what pretense does he then ask him to repeat his phone number? “Please repeat the phone number I just dialed.”

The phone number contains all the digits needed to recreate the bank account number?

He somehow has the bank account number?

He meets the CEO (despite just being a security consultant) and gives his report to the board of directors?! That is not how companies usually work, especially the board part.

Check on a silver platter? architect of the voice system is brought into the room with the board to be humiliated? This reads like something a 13 year old would dream up (nothing against OP maybe someone even Mitnik really did claim this happened).

The tale is absolutely embellished if it has any truth at all.

alex-moon|2 years ago

All of the stories in his books are like this. An existing seemingly sensible system is used in a creative way to get access. Every time you read one the creative solution is so elegant you just go "Ah, can't believe I didn't think of that" (and then go try it yourself obviously - had lots of fun as a teenager taking down websites/stealing ppl's passwords/etc as a party trick for my friends).

sbilstein|2 years ago

As a kid I ate this stuff up. In the eighth grade, I defaced my middle school website.

The IT person easily figured out it was me and then tricked me into thinking I would be expelled within days. She pulled me out of class, told me such in the hallway, let me return to class where I held in tears until the end of the day.

Nothing happened and the school year ended a few weeks later. Towards the end of the summer I realized it had been a bluff and I wouldn’t be punished. Took me a few years later to realize how much of a favor that all was! The county school of conduct clearly said cybercrime was punishable by expulsion so she could have absolutely put me in some kind of hell. The fear set me straight hah.

abledon|2 years ago

I wonder if the same scenario happened today, where a Kid has an interaction like that with a bank CEO, showing an insane vulnerability... The kid would just be sentenced to jail time and charged as an adult.

tomjakubowski|2 years ago

How would he have known the CEO's bank account number? Did the CEO write him a check at some point? Or maybe a bank's CEO traditionally gets account number 1…

anon_tech|2 years ago

there is a bank in Italy currently that uses this voice recognition mechanism which with current AI tech is fakeable within 20 min. Nothing much changed since back then I guess

steviedotboston|2 years ago

> Mitnick was a hacker hero of mine in my youth. I think I’ve understood his role as jester prior to conviction less as I’ve grown older, but there’s something about the boyhood charm of being so divorced from the potential consequences of one’s actions that is almost unique.

Yeah, I remember watching "Freedom Downtime" as a teenager and thinking how ludicrous it was that he was sentenced to prison for computer hacking, but now that I think about it as an adult of course he should have been. Sure solitary confinment, the specifics of his sentence, etc. may have been extreme and I'd like to think that the court system has progressed in their knowledge of computer security since then, but what he did was still a breach of corporate security. He knew at the time it was illegal, and he just thought he was too smart to get caught.

That idea that we had at the time that it was a "victimless crime" or something was very immature.

ddkwlfe|2 years ago

int(phone number) "contained all ten digits" is the main embellishment. KM used different acct#. check delivery was weeks later, after negotiations. either way kevin was OG AF ..|..

ChuckMcM|2 years ago

I was not aware he was ill. Always sad to hear people that are taken by cancer.

I didn't know Kevin, but am friends with Tsutomu Shimomura who worked with authorities to get him arrested. Tsutomu worked with me a bit when I was at Sun trying to get a cryptographically secure subsystem into the base system specification. It was fun to listen to his side of this story.

The 80's was a really weird time for computer enthusiasts, and it was the period of time when what was then considered the "hacker" community schismed into what today we might call "white hat" vs "black hat" hackers.

As a person who considered themselves to be part of that community I was personally offended by how the story of Kevin painted everyone who thought of themselves as a "hacker" as a criminal. It made for good story telling to make these folks "pirate" or perhaps more accurately "privateer" types in their swashbuckling ways of sticking it to the man. People would say, "Exposing security holes is like solving puzzles (which is fun) and important because if I don't do it, well somebody 'bad' will." And while I'm here, why not make it hurt for them a little bit to incentivize them to fix this problem quickly!"

I didn't disagree with the importance of pointing out security problems, but the flamboyant way it was done scared the crap out of people who were both clueless and in a position to do stupid things. As a result we got the CFAA and the DMCA which are both some of the most ridiculous pieces of legislation after the so called "patriot" act.

The damage that did to curious people growing up lost the US a significant fraction of their upcoming "innovation" talent. While not diminishing the folks who leaned in to the illegality of it.

mcv|2 years ago

> I was not aware he was ill. Always sad to hear people that are taken by cancer.

It was pancreatic cancer, which is the deadliest cancer. It kills very quickly and as far as I know, it's impossible to cure.

It killed my mom: 3 months between diagnosis and death. She didn't want treatment because it couldn't save her; it would only postpone the inevitable and she didn't want to spend the rest of her days in hospitals.

29athrowaway|2 years ago

Markoff and Shimomura received $750,000 for their book rights and $650,000 for the film rights. The most sensational parts in the book or the movie had absolutely nothing to do with the truth.

Sharknado is closer to reality than Track Down. The cringest part is Tsutomu's fictional gf.

withinboredom|2 years ago

Pro-tip: CFAA only applies if you cross state lines between you and the server. Otherwise, state laws applies and there are/were some states that never passed any 'anti-hacking' laws.

Source: experience.

jonahx|2 years ago

> but the flamboyant way it was done scared the crap out of people who were both clueless and in a position to do stupid things. As a result we got the CFAA and the DMCA which are both some of the most ridiculous pieces of legislation after the so called "patriot" act.

> The damage that did to curious people growing up lost the US a significant fraction of their upcoming "innovation" talent.

The causal leap from flamboyant hackers to the DMCA/CFAA, and then to damaging the US's innovation talent feels... speculative.

detourdog|2 years ago

The hacks had to be flamboyant. If the hacks weren’t embarrassing the “adults” in suits would deny the hairy person in a t-shirt knew what they were talking about.

msarrel|2 years ago

Having been around for the long haul and meet Kevin a few times, I'm sad to hear of his passing. Yet, his white hat influence will live on.

I completely agree. There was a time when hacker did not mean criminal. That was the time during which Kevin was active. It was also the time during which I was active, not that that matters right now. But there was a rapid shift from computers being something you could explore to if you're exploring that then you are a bad person. And I also agree that trying to scare policy makers isn't necessarily going to work because they don't understand what they're scared of. Curiosity is no longer rewarded in general in our society.

Those of you who don't think what Kevin did was important, there seem to be a lot of people discussing him, aren't there?

Mindwipe|2 years ago

> The damage that did to curious people growing up lost the US a significant fraction of their upcoming "innovation" talent. While not diminishing the folks who leaned in to the illegality of it.

It is very difficult to see how that is the case when pretty much every functioning nation has substantially similar laws.

pcunite|2 years ago

As a result we got the CFAA and the DMCA which are both some of the most ridiculous pieces of legislation after the so called "patriot" act. The damage that did to curious people growing up lost the US a significant fraction of their upcoming "innovation" talent. While not diminishing the folks who leaned in to the illegality of it.

I was escorted out of my job as a shipping clerk in 1999 for creating an entry in an NT 4.0 group with my name in it to impress the IT Admin so I could get a job in the computer department.

larrywright|2 years ago

I really enjoyed the book Takedown, about Shimomura's pursuit of Mitnick - I must have read it three or four times. I always wondered what happened to Shimomura, since he just seemed to drop out of sight after that book came out.

imperialdrive|2 years ago

Storytime: He randomly came over for dinner while cruising around LA with a friend of a friend, aaages ago... asked if I had a disposable tablecloth, luckily yes. Orders like 10 entrees/appetizers/desserts for delivery for just the 3 of us. Over a few hours picking at food, drinking case of beer etc., the entire table was covered in tech gibberish, diagrams, code etc. Really wish I saved that, but at the time I was like "who IS this guy?" and it was a disgusting mess. I do recall appreciating that level of openness and bonding, and have never had such an experience with anyone else like that in the industry since then. RIP

iJohnDoe|2 years ago

Thanks for sharing your story. A rare anecdote about a young legend.

frellus|2 years ago

Wow. My first encounter with Kevin Mitnick was a random one.. joining one of my school's IRC channels one day there was there guy on it who was bragging about how he had broken into our central AIX server, would read the admins' e-mail all the time and for every hole they plugged he would just find another one.

I was just a university Freshman just starting my CS classes, and seeing this discussion, it was like I had entered some underground revolutionary meeting. It opened my eyes to mischief and testing the boundaries of systems and order where this guy who was on IRC as root@system was just calmly saying how the technical universe I was just learning about was controllable in ways I had no clue about.

I never followed the case after he was prosecuted, and I didn't go down the hacker route in my career, but it was a life-changing moment for me to see this outsider live out "War Games" in real life.

RIP, root. Your crimes and mischief certainly didn't define you, especially as you went down the ethical hacker path (the first?). Pancreatic cancer is a horrible way to go, I am sorry to see this story today and condolences to his family and friends.

mindcrime|2 years ago

Oh man, oh man. This is heart-breaking. Even though I never met Kevin IRL, he was always something of a.. well, maybe not a "role model" exactly, but certainly an inspiring character in many regards. Some of my earliest forays into the world of phone phreaking and related activities were inspired by the stories I read about Mitnick and his crew out in LA, in Markoff and Haffner's book Cyberpunk. For a while me and some of the guys I ran with would use the word "Kevin" as a sort of code-word for this stuff to avoid telling our parents any more than necessary about what we were doing

"Where are you going to night boys?"

"Oh, we're going to hang out with Kevin."

(this meant a night of trashing telco dumpsters, fucking around with payphones, and various other dubious activities)

"Oh, OK. Well, be careful."

That sort of thing.

Wow. Never saw this coming. I didn't even know he'd been ill.

Anyway... RIP, Mr. Mitnick. May there be clueless operators to social engineer, on "the other side".

throwaway88008|2 years ago

The post mentions Dutchman Stu Sjouwerman as a close friend. Kevin was partnered with Stu in the security company KnowBe4.

Stu is a dedicated Scientologist, and has donated millions and millions of dollars to that corrupt organization. I know because I served in the Scientology Sea Org and knew Stu when he was on “OTVII”. This was before KnowBe4, but he was still something of a big donator. He really hit it big with KnowBe4 and became one of the few whales still funneling massive amounts to the church.

I found out about the connection between Stu and Kevin while I was working as a developer for a tech company. One day we started getting those security tips and tricks emails, white labeled so they looked like they came from our own AppSec team. At the end of the emails it ended with the line “the price of freedom is constant alertness, constant willingness to fight back”. A direct quote from L Ron Hubbard and one Scientologists (and former Scientologists like me) know well. After digging deeper I found out they were coming from KnowBe4 and saw Kevin listed on the site as being a partner.

Business relationship aside, after reading Ghost, you get the sense that Kevin would not and could not stop hacking. Maybe he matured and that urge dulled but I always wondered if he ever did some covert snooping into what Stu was up to with Scientology. The Sea Org computer and communication systems are ancient (they still use pagers for some things!). It would have been a blast for someone like him to compromise their systems. And they are right there in Clearwater down the road from KnowBe4 headquarters…

Posting with throwaway because I ain’t tryna win a covert Scientology harassment and stalking op and have my family disown me which happens to virtually every former member who speaks out publicly.

autoexec|2 years ago

They seem to hook a lot of clever people. I always assumed it was some kind of weird tax dodge, but maybe Scientology doesn't get enough credit for their social engineering skills

estomagordo|2 years ago

> Posting with throwaway because I ain’t tryna win a covert Scientology harassment and stalking op and have my family disown me which happens to virtually every former member who speaks out publicly.

What vile and quite obviously delusional people!

kaydub|2 years ago

Kevin still red teamed all the time through his other company.

I seriously doubt he ever tried to hack SCN.

ecohen16|2 years ago

When Kevin first found out he had Cancer, the doctors gave him "weeks". But you know Kevin -- he refused to accept his fate and found the top doctors in the world, tried experimental procedures and was able to get himself all the way into remission just 11 months later. It was incredibly inspiring, we all thought he had yet again beaten the system. It's tragic how the last 10 weeks played out, he fought all the way until the end. He's was a legend who paved the way for millions in the cybersecurity space. We will miss him.

e40|2 years ago

Seriously, fuck pancreatic cancer. My best friend died of it in Oct 2020. I've had 10+ people I know (or someone that I know know) die of it. It's my worst fear, cancer-wise.

jboy55|2 years ago

My parents vaguely remembered who Kevin Mitnick was when I gave my father my copy of 'Ghost in the Wires' to read.

I told him, this was the 'hacker' of the 80s, read how he managed to 'hack' all these places. My father replied, "I'm pretty sure I won't understand anything he would do". Me, "Just give it a chance, you'll be surprised"

When he gave the book back, I asked my father if anything Kevin did my father wouldn't have understood. My father said, "I understood everything he did". I asked, "Now, when you get a call from someone you don't know claiming to be an authority figure, what do you do?". Father: "Hang up"

dryrun|2 years ago

Would there be a modern version of this? I haven't read it and I'm interested, but mostly my parents are getting old, and with AI on the corner, I fear a bit the next level scams.

hedgehog|2 years ago

It's funny, though I didn't really know him I did have two chance interactions 15 or so years back that are in a way core lessons for me about business.

Back when he started doing consulting I ended up spending some hours on the phone with him over a week or so as an evenings/weekends side project (I had a more than full time job too). He seemed like a nice enough dude, basically a middle aged guy trying to put his life back together, and he was understandably not up to speed on web app security due to his recent stint in prison. I don't think that business ever panned out but he eventually pivoted and built a multi-billion dollar company around the concept he was known for (social engineering).

The second is embedded in his somewhat famous lock pick business card. It turns out those cards are a direct copy of a friend's card, conceived by me, designed by a second friend, and inspired by a third friend who'd discovered the shop that did etched steel cards. Kevin's card traded in usability by shortening the tools to make more space for contact information. Regardless, his ability to capture the spotlight helped ensure his version is by far the best known.

RIP.

faeriechangling|2 years ago

Mitnick did remind myself as a preteen, even if it never seems he quite outgrew his own preteen antics. He was a gutsy guy who made life more rich and interesting in his own way. He never seemed to bend to the system’s will long after many of us so called anti-authoritarians would have thrown in the towel.

When I read his books I alternated between fascination, revulsion, admiration, and shock. Mitnick above all wasn’t boring and I think “not boring” doesn’t get enough credit in the measure of a man.

RajT88|2 years ago

> Mitnick above all wasn’t boring and I think “not boring” doesn’t get enough credit in the measure of a man.

My wife might agree or disagree with you, depending on the day.

metalforever|2 years ago

This is a big deal to me in a man, probably the primary thing I look for. I don't want to have a boring life.

gkoberger|2 years ago

Wow. He was only 59.

I've always loved his lockpicking business card: https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/kevin-mitnicks-famous-lockpi...

While I assume this is real, part of me does feel like a combination of how young he is and who is is leads me to be slightly skeptical. Assuming it's real, hopefully he would have appreciated the skepticism.

Simulacra|2 years ago

He gave me his business card at CES and it's one of my most prized possessions. I am heartbroken.

ineedasername|2 years ago

I had a similar thought, his social engineering abilities were very strong. If there was one person in the world willing to fake their own death to engineer access to something, it would have been him. A sad day.

booi|2 years ago

Can you still get one of these? It says send cash in the mail so… I’m skeptical

Apocryphon|2 years ago

Adrian Lamo also passed away at an early age (37), coincidentally enough.

yreg|2 years ago

For years I planned to get one by sending him the $10, but I never got around to do it…

SonicSoul|2 years ago

damn i missed this! do you know if its possible to still get one of those???

mabbo|2 years ago

> Donations can be made in Kevin's memory to The National Pancreas Foundation https://pancreasfoundation.org/ or The Equal Justice Initiative https://eji.org/

> These are two causes of great importance to Kimberley and Kevin; both organizations put the majority of donated funds to work in the communities they serve.

If Kevin inspired you, perhaps a donation in his name would be a nice gesture.

serf|2 years ago

RIP. I still have my FREE KEVIN sticker on an old freezer.

One of my fond memories with my now-dead mother was going to see him during a prison transfer in Los Angeles and yelling outside the place until he waved to us and the rest of the crowd through a window.

jmbwell|2 years ago

Oh my god. I was on the phone with him not that long ago discussing a red team project. I had no idea what was going on.

He was always generous and kind yet professional, despite us kind of fanning out. He had the ease of someone who knew what they were doing and didn’t feel they had anything to prove, which of course he didn’t.

I was looking forward to working with him more. I hate how you never know how a thing’s going to go.

Here’s to the innumerable things about modern connected society that are the way they are, whether indirectly or directly, because of Kevin Mitnick.

r00f|2 years ago

I got into IT because of him mainly. When I was 12, where I was growing up I was the only one who knew what a computer is. I remember reading his story somewhere, then I got to my mom's computer at her office and read all I could find about his story.

I wrote "Free Kevin Mitnick!" with a black marker on my tshirt and was walking around my town proudly wearing it. Nobody understood anything about it but it made me feel like involved into some secret society.

Next year I convinced parents to pay for me learning QBasic (the only computer course in my town back then), and 3 years later I got into university on an Information Security specialization. Some of my friends say that I was the reason why they got into IT. Well, I guess we all owe that to Kevin.

I talked to him in person once at a conference and was happy like a little puppy, but being socially awkward as I am I didn't tell him that he is my childhood hero. I hope now when he has trandcended to the cloud, he has a bird's eye view on our realm and can see all the positive impact that he had had on my life and lives of people I've influenced...

The very brightest memories

joshmanders|2 years ago

The movie Hackers and Kevin's story were two pinnacles of me getting into computers in 1997.

henrik_w|2 years ago

I really enjoyed reading his book Ghost in the Wires. It is the story of Mitnick’s hacking career, from the start in his teens, through becoming the FBI’s most wanted hacker, to spending years in jail before finally being released. It’s a fascinating book that at times reads like a thriller. One of the things that struck me when reading it was how often he used social engineering to gain access to systems.

I wrote more about it here:

https://henrikwarne.com/2015/12/27/social-engineering-from-k...

giantg2|2 years ago

If you're looking for other stories, The Art of Deception (Mitnick specific) and The Art of Intrusion (not all Mitnick) have a ton.

freedomben|2 years ago

Those two books, plus Ghost in the Wires, are absolute must reads for anyone who visits HN

dylan604|2 years ago

In a similar vein of social engineering, Exploding The Phone is good read about the Phreakers of yore.

JKCalhoun|2 years ago

I wish I remember which book I read about Mitnick (and others).

I developed a strong dislike for Mitnick, however. As others have said, he came across as an adolescent with an over-sized ego. More "Jackass" than "Silicon Valley". Although I'm sure he's not the only "hacker" for whom illegal entry into computer systems gave him a sense of self-importance.

No thanks.

Edit: yeah, probably was "Cyberpunk: Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier". I still don't think "bullshit artist" is something to aspire to.

muzani|2 years ago

I used to read these while procrastinating on network security exams. Damn, they were a lot more fun than expected.

m4jor|2 years ago

Ghost in the Wires is a good one too

Minor49er|2 years ago

He's social engineering his way through the pearly gates now. Rest in peace, Kevin

seanhandley|2 years ago

I met Kevin at a conference in Manchester where he cloned my HID access card and made an amazing demo of how easily this can get a company's workstations compromised with keyloggers. It was like watching a magician - he was a very skilled, funny, intelligent man with a wealth of knowledge. He gave me his business card (which is also a lock-picking kit) and I will treasure it.

Thanks for all you taught us Kevin, and thanks for being a beacon of curiosity and exploration.

trashcanman|2 years ago

Wow didn’t see that coming. I met him at a HOPE conference with Steve Wozniak. Followed him for years from hacker zine texts distributed on CDs back in the day. Wow that’s really sad what a fun guy he was. His social engineering book was pretty interesting. That OKI phone story was so fascinating I bought a couple to see if I could do it too, although by then 900MHz was phased out. This guy made a difference in my life how very strange

myself248|2 years ago

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b212|2 years ago

Just woke up my wife with a loud sigh. I remember all my childhood friends pretending to be Zidane or Figo or Rivaldo. I always wanted to be Mitnick. Sucked at soccer but never stopped hacking. Holy f, he was so young. Out of all people I really hoped to meet him one day. The rockstar of my childhood. What a shitty day.

__warlord__|2 years ago

I'm a bit "on the younger generation" but I remember the movie based on his story: "Take Down" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159784/.

To this day I know the difference between a cracker and a hacker :)

RIP.

lyu07282|2 years ago

Its a pretty cool movie, surprisingly realistic with a focus on social engineering. No idea how accurate it was otherwise, probably not really.

Sad to see, he was way too young to go. RIP

garfieldnate|2 years ago

Having read and loved Ghost in the Wires, I felt a special bond with Kevin. I loved his antics combined with his fearless exploration of how everything around him works. I'm really sad reading of his death today. He was far too young. My favorite story from the book is how he set up a computer to tail the logs of cell towers in his area for phone numbers matching the FBI agents assigned to his case so he would be alerted when they were on to him. Wow, that's bold! But also, reading that I realized how our society had allowed ourselves to be surrounded by tracking machines that the government could use to find us at any time, and man it was beautiful to see it turned back on them.

wanderingmoose|2 years ago

There was something I always wanted to ask him:

He was so meticulous is setting up new identities and moving to random places around the country to avoid the authorities. But would then log back into his previously compromised systems in a way that would expose his current geographic location. It always seemed like such a glaring hole in his otherwise well thought out personal opsec. I'm sure the story was more complicated than what appeared in the press at the time, or in the 2600 knock-off zines that were going around at the time, or in his books. It always confused me. I could never figure out if that was an oversight, or he just wasn't aware he was being watched.

I think I share a similar pendulum swinging feelings about km as other folks here, especially as his story unfolded across many different phases of my life: from adulation as a teen, to realizing that he was just another a*hole who would lie to your face to get what they want. Recently it has swung waaay back the other way -- especially as more of our access to customer service for critical aspects of our lives get buried behind obstructionist systems -- to understanding that we always need people who can tear any system apart.

As an addendum...I think the term hacker should be handed to the sys admin that started was instrumental in getting km located by (If my foggy mind remembers correcly) by emailing logs or log stats to himself and noticing that size was shrinking so someone was deleting them -- that blew my mind at the time.

He will be missed.

arbitrage|2 years ago

I believe that at first it was a game for him. Eventually he got tired of running, and this may have been a way of taunting his pursuers and forcing an end-game situation that he overestimated his chances against.

He was not prepared for four years of solitary and unconstitutional delaying of his trial. He did not ultimately have a game plan for what to do if his opponent cheated.

If the government had acted justly (that is, according to their own laws) he would have been found innocent and walked at his trial. However, the prosecutors lied, they cheated, corrupted the system they claimed to protect, and that was it. Game over, no redos.

technick|2 years ago

Kevin is partially the reason I decided to work in information security. I remember reading his book, art of deception, and it gave a name to the skill I had practiced most of the childhood, social engineering. Later on in life I got to meet him and spent the first at least 2 hours of time in shock n awe. Afterwards, he was great to talk with and offered me his number if I ever needed another set of ears. Sadly I haven't talked with him since the pandemic, but he will forever be remembered.

Hopefully our paths will cross again.

bluedays|2 years ago

I talked to Mitnick once on the phone. I was on a partyline back in the AIM days and a hacker friend of mine called him up. Kevin seemed very frustrated that he kept calling him. I was just dumbfounded I was actually on the phone with Kevin Mitnick so I didn't say anything. Was shocked and saddened to see this. Sorry about that night, Kevin. Rest in peace.

heystefan|2 years ago

RIP to the legend.

Remember when Yahoo! was defaced with a "FREE KEVIN" message? Good times.

29athrowaway|2 years ago

I remember when KevinMitnick.com was defaced.

Zobat|2 years ago

Rarely has "Hacker News" been a more appropriate page name.

RIP Kevin.

megraf|2 years ago

I snuck into a banking conference in Miami Florida to meet Kevin. I forged my badge, using the previous years design as inspiration. I got in, and met him, and gave him my badge.

He said "that's really cool" and signed a copy of Ghost in the Wires for me.

Really incredible guy. Rest in peace my friend.

anonu|2 years ago

Kevin came to speak at CMU in the University Center. Maybe around 2003/2004. I recall it was standing room only. For me, it was like seeing your favorite action hero in real life. Yes he was convicted of some crimes, but he showed you could be redeemed and continue to live a good, fulfilling life educating others what not to do. RIP

noufalibrahim|2 years ago

The Cyberthief and the Samurai (along with a few other books like Snow Crash, Hackers, the Cuckoos egg etc.) were books that made a big impact on me earlier in my life. It wasn't as much about facts as much as about building a virtual map of the digital world in my head. This was before I had actual access to a fast internet connection.

I had a printout of the MIT guide to lock picking and used to try out stuff with some hand crafted "tools". I'd forgotten about Mitnick and later (probably via. Slashdot) came across his site again and saw this https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/kevin-mitnicks-famous-lockpi... which suddenly brought back the same image I had formed about him. Playful to the extent of not caring, irreverent, and curious.

Rest in Peace.

placesalt|2 years ago

Sad to see. Pancreatic cancer is one of the scary ones, since there are so few symptoms before you hit stage 4.

For those who haven't seen it, Freedom Downtime is a movie by the 2600 gang which is mostly about Mitnick's imprisonment, and the whole Free Kevin movement.

(I wonder who wrote the obituary, it's especially wide-ranging, and poetic in parts.)

wayeq|2 years ago

I'm still upset I fell for Markoff and Shimomura's self serving narrative about Mitnick in the 90's.

kaishiro|2 years ago

Terrible news, especially at that age. I remember reading "The Art of Deception" in college.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have anything else corroborating this? Everywhere seems to be sharing the same dignitymemorial.com link.

elif|2 years ago

I can't say enough about how influential Kevin has been in every decade, continually staying at the head of the snake of hacking. I am so lucky not just for how he inspired me in my youth, but how he relit the fire of security paranoia in the last decade when I was fortunate to work for an organization he hacked (by contract).

All software engineers are now more vulnerable with Kevin gone. Stay paranoid friends, now more than ever.

manca|2 years ago

I will always remember when the "Takedown" movie came out. I loved the original "Hackers" and couldn't wait for "Hackers 2" which was Takedown.

I had learned about Mitnick few years prior to the movie and was fascinated by his life story and what he had done up to that point (including his "takedown" by the FBI). It's an understatement to say that his work, character and some sort of positive social manipulation put a great influence on my upbringing and later my professional career. Back then I enjoyed playing pranks with my friends and "hacking" them with all sorts of trojans and ejecting their CD roms :)

I am very sad to hear that he's gone. RIP Legend.

PettingRabbits|2 years ago

Pancreatic cancer really sucks. A friend of mine passed away from it a few months ago at the ripe old age of 25. She was first diagnosed with it at 20, beat it, and then nearly three years later it came back at stage 4. Like Kevin she also underwent a few different experimental treatments, the first of which worked remarkably well. (Until it didn't, which is typical of these treatments) A cure or effective treatment feels so close, and I'm sure if one comes soon I'll be having a bittersweet celebration.

I never did get to meet Kevin, but it's clear that I missed out on an amazing person. RIP Mr Mitnick.

h2odragon|2 years ago

Like the Gerber baby, the symbol people recognized didn't necessarily have that much to do with the actual person.

RIP dude.

CSMastermind|2 years ago

I didn't know him personally, do you have any stories you can share?

hoistbypetard|2 years ago

RIP. I can't appropriately explain to anyone who wasn't around for it just how much he influenced my thinking from the late 80s to late 90s.

geocrasher|2 years ago

My first thought, genuinely, was 'This is zero cool'

An icon for many of us here. I feel worse for his mate and unborn child. Losing a mate is very, very, hard. Going through that myself...

strictnein|2 years ago

> Going through that myself...

Sorry to hear that

r3trohack3r|2 years ago

Much love geocrasher, sorry to hear

zsiddique|2 years ago

I remember reading Kevin Mitnick books in the early 2000s and it really open my eyes about social engineering and how hacking is more than just cracking a code. Help me become a better DevOps and Software Engineer.

whalesalad|2 years ago

Same! His book on social engineering was profound to my teenage mind. Rest in peace.

ianpenney|2 years ago

The hacker community needs a word akin to “Silent Key” - in the ham radio community - that means a contributor that’s passed on.

Never met the guy but you’re damn right I know who he is. And I come from the middle of nowhere.

freedomben|2 years ago

Sad news. His biography/story "Ghost in the Wires" is one of the most amazing books I've ever read. I highly recommend it. The audiobook is read by Ray Porter and is gold. I'll be giving it a re-listen.

His books "The Art of {Deception,Invisibility,Intrusion}" are absolute bangers for most of the people here. Can't recommend enough

deepfield67|2 years ago

This is really sad. I can't overstate the impact Kevin had on my life. The world is suddenly less interesting and less secure and my heart goes out to family and friends. Rest in peace, Kevin.

rglover|2 years ago

Aw this is a bummer. RIP. I'll never forget reading The Art of Deception in high school.

codetrotter|2 years ago

RIP. Same here, I read the whole book on a Sony Ericsson W810i Walkman cell phone in high school. The phone I read it on had a 176x220 pixels tiny little screen. Book was captivating.

iJohnDoe|2 years ago

This is triggering real crying and emotional breakdown. Mitnick was a friend I never had. An older brother or cool guy that sparked inspiration. Such a strange feeling to be so sad about a person I never met. Like losing a friend. He had such an influence on my life. Hits close to home.

Thanks Kevin. RIP.

throwaway892238|2 years ago

When I was 16 years old, I started a 2600 meeting at a local mall food court. We joined in the 'Free Mitnick' movement, and would go around handing out flyers, explaining the implications of his case, peppering the place with stickers, putting them in copies of 2600 in Barnes & Noble and Borders. His case was an inspiration to a budding little hacker and taught me to become more idealistic and push for legal reforms and the rights of people who were punished far more than they deserved. Later in life I got to meet him at hacker conventions, and he was a super nice guy. I even got one of his lock-pick-set business cards! I know he's somewhat of a controversial figure, but he was also inspirational.

29athrowaway|2 years ago

The authorities obsession with Mitnick was because John Markoff and the New York Times made the public believe that hackers were effectively in control of everything and could go as far as starting WW3 by hacking into NORAD and other similar caliber BS that never happened.

wordsarelies|2 years ago

He was childlike in his pranksterism. He never seemed to lose his wonder or his ability to make you feel like a jackass.

The man who could whistle the nuclear codes has passed away. And now maybe I can strike the social engineering village before the sun comes up.

blindriver|2 years ago

Wow, this is seriously upsetting. The fact that so many people are dying of pancreatic cancer is very, very scary to me, and it's so many young people at this point.

nicetryguy|2 years ago

It's one of the few that's still difficult to detect, and by the time you show symptoms you are basically stage 4... it's treatable if you catch it early, but therein lies the problem; My grandfather passed away from it.

chrisrickard|2 years ago

When I wad 13 I printed out “FREE KEVIN” stickers and stuck them all over the locker room of my school. …kind of a weird thing to do in Australia back then.

whynotkeithberg|2 years ago

I read his book when I was younger... And at DEFCON 19 I got selected to get paired with a celebrity hacker in the 10,000 cent hacker pyramid. I ended up getting paired with Kevin Mitnick & we played against Dan Kaminsky. It was a really cool experience & even though Kaminsky went on to win... It was a ton of fun and Kevin was a really cool guy.

I hope his family is doing well.

gt565k|2 years ago

May he rest in peace.

I first heard of Kevin Mitnick in the early 2000's when I was watching "The Broken" with Kevin Rose and he interviewed Mitnick in one of the episodes.

I was 14-15 years old at the time! Wow!

Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcWByfwkf4k

glitchc|2 years ago

It's a lovely obituary. God speed.

xwdv|2 years ago

Fuck man, this hit me hard and unexpected. Ghost in the Wires was one of my favorite books. Was fun to read about a true hacker, definitely inspired me. He was too young.

Can’t believe there is no black banner. This is hackernews.

m4jor|2 years ago

Is this real?

Spliterator|2 years ago

I'm wondering the same thing. Wikipedia page isn't updated, I don't see any updates on https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/ or https://www.knowbe4.com/, and I can't find any other news mentions about this.

I also can't find mention of him having pancreatic cancer, but that's not necessarily a confirmation of anything. He certainly could have kept it private.

JuanTono|2 years ago

I'm asking the same, Wikipedia page is not updated and based on the note he died on Sunday...

motbus3|2 years ago

Mitnick was a warrior battling giant corps alone. I believe he did that just because he could only, but it does not take the merit of one guy being able to outweight the whole industry.

bootcat|2 years ago

RIP - He was a role model to upcoming social engineering folks,

thallavajhula|2 years ago

OMG! This is so sad. I read about Kevin a lot and read the book, "The Art of Deception" during my teen years and was fascinated by how interesting social engineering was. Once I got into college, I got busy and never followed him anymore. I recently read about him in some random article and then I read about him now. I opened HN to see the black band on top and was worried to know who it could be and turns out, it was Kevin.

eddie_catflap|2 years ago

Ghost in the Wires is a laugh out loud read for me. I told him it should be a movie and he said there was a screenplay. Hope it sees the light of day.

q-base|2 years ago

I will by no means say that I followed or knew him. But the name was familiar and I suddenly remembered who he was and that I had his book on my wishlist for christmas. Sorry to hear about the loss.

I do like some of his approaches to life. There are some similarities between him and Richard Feynman.

Who comes to mind if I would like to follow some still living people that has this rebellious, "joire de vivre" way of life?

nimmen|2 years ago

Surely legend of the era. Remember some obscure court restrictions for him at the time, not quite sure they were real, or hoax, or urban legends...

tankenmate|2 years ago

My first memory of Mitnick was a very early web viral 8bit sound file (ADPCM if memory serves) that was purported to be Mitnick (it turned out later to not be Mitnick); "I know sendmail technique. ...". I can still hear it in my head today. I got my start into infosec working as an admin at my university; trying to keep on top of students being naughty was a good introduction.

alfanick|2 years ago

He made me. I remember back in my teen years reading interviews with him, I was back in phreaking scene. He was a hero. He is a hero. What a loss.

glonq|2 years ago

Fuck cancer. I picked it up a couple months ago at the ripe age of 50, and spend my days getting nuked with chemo and rads now.

chmod600|2 years ago

I didn’t meet him, but to me he was a symbol of the freedom in a newly-created world. Sad that he passed away a few decades too soon.

pnw|2 years ago

RIP Kevin. Too young to be gone. I only met him once but he was definitely one of a kind and his story inspired a lot of people.

phone8675309|2 years ago

Rest in peace, Kevin. I am so glad that a much younger me got to meet you one day at a conference. Best to your family.

atum47|2 years ago

Takedown was my favorite movie as a kid. It influenced me a lot. In Brazil is not common to have a bathtub in your bathroom, we used suicide showers (term that I recently learned on YouTube); anyway, the image of Mitnick hacking in the tube on his laptop resonated with me, I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

May he rest in peace.

dekhn|2 years ago

Reading how he did social engineering was a huge influence on me... basically, taught me how to interact with normies.

yousifa|2 years ago

RIP legend. Not sure that I would be where I am today without Kevin being an inspiration and hero to me growing up.

anta40|2 years ago

RIP Kevin.

Many many years ago, during undergraduate days, I used to study "Art of Deception", wanted to became a security hacker one day.

Now my topic of interest has shifted. Nevertheless, that book still reminds me that human is still the weakest link in security chain. You don't have to be super smart in exploiting code.

mottiden|2 years ago

Rest In Peace Kevin. You were the reason why I started programming. I loved reading your books when I was younger.

anjel|2 years ago

>The real OG of hacking

Abbie Hoffman's Steal This Book and Kevin Mittnick taught me the noun form meaning of exploit. RIP

grayhatter|2 years ago

Mitnick's legend (and his books) are definitely a big part of why I have a job I love.

I was tempted to send a box of donuts as a gift... but instead I think I'll send the two dozen as a donation to the EJI instead.

https://eji.org/

dncosta|2 years ago

Just read about this.

So many memories from way back, reading up on his story (and stories), reading his books, watching "Takedown" over and over again ...

No matter how polarising he was, his influence in the field and in leading many young people to get into computers and turn that into a career is unquestionable, imho.

RIP

ineedasername|2 years ago

I missed meeting Kevin Mitnick at the infamous HOPE 2006 conference where he was set to speak, but he was waylaid by something or other and he landed in the hospital. His reputation was still a presence through those few days though, just a few short years after his release from prison.

elchief|2 years ago

The internet is a safer but sadder place

Read Ghost in the Wire as a young man and it inspired me to get into computers

Rest in Peace, brother

par|2 years ago

His recent enterprise, KnowBe4, was doing security training for companies, trying to make the internet safer! So you could say we're less safe with him gone :(

m3kw9|2 years ago

The real OG of hacking

aestetix|2 years ago

RIP Kevin. What a loss. That guy's court case basically defined the 90s for many of us.

throwaway67743|2 years ago

Is there an obit that isn't on a dumb site that blocks entire countries for no reason?

bussiere|2 years ago

Fuck ...

He was kind of role model for me, i was inspired by the way he saw the world, in everything he was able to see hole and flaw and how to exploit them. Where "normal" people just don't think about it.

His stories and mischiefs will be missed for me.

sgammon|2 years ago

for those of us who grew up without a father, as technologists, especially in the 90's and early 2000's, kevin mitnick was something of a guiding light.

he gave us permission to explore the darker underbelly of technology and was emblematic of a freer (free as in freedom) time on the internet. yes, he was a convicted criminal, but he was also a complex character who loved to solve puzzles and his competitive nature ultimately drove his work.

the famous story of the fbi showing up at his house and kevin saying, "no problem, I'll report to the fbi office tomorrow"... yeah, that didn't work, but he was the type to try and that was beautiful.

SV_BubbleTime|2 years ago

I'll go in tomorrow and update our August KnowBe4 training deployment for August to be a couple of his modules. Our users won't know, and I guess he won't either, but cancer sucks and it'll make me happy to do it.

cryptoz|2 years ago

Well I’m crying. Kevin was my hero for so many years growing up and inspired me to do nearly everything I’ve done. I met him at The Last HOPE so many years ago and I feel so privileged for that opportunity.

RIP Kevin, we’ll miss you so much.

major505|2 years ago

Man, fuck cancer. He still was young, and his wife is pregnant. I remember as a kid reading about his exploits, and how much that influenced my carrer choice and interest in computers.

Hope he can hack his way into heaven.

antegamisou|2 years ago

He was the person I associated the word hacker with, when I came across his name back in 2003 as a kid when I was searching for 'top hackers in the world'. (Google was functional back then...).

RIP

prmoustache|2 years ago

"He is survived by his brother-in-law, Ricky Barry and his wife Roxy"

What a strange way to phrase it. Why don't they mention his sister first? Is it plain sexism or were they in bad terms?

blondie9x|2 years ago

Feel bad for the unborn child that will have to be raised without a father because his parents decided selfishly to conceive him or her due to illness.

Raising a child is more than genetics.

captainkrtek|2 years ago

Rest in peace. Like many others here, Mitnick was an inspiration to me when I was younger, believe he truly embodied the hacker ethos. “Ghost in the wires” is a fantastic and fun read.

paul7986|2 years ago

He was expecting his first child at 59/60 which is awesome especially those 10 to 15 years younger or so who like to still also, yet he dies before his child was born. Heartbreaking!

RIP

slowhadoken|2 years ago

All my immediate family is very young so I always thought 50 was old. Then I lost a stepfather to cancer when he was in his 50’s. I couldn’t believe it, he was so young.

marinhero|2 years ago

I never met him but his books and anecdotes fueled the mind of a young me. All I wanted was to be a hacker like him. Rest in peace Mr Mitnick. You’ll be missed.

pjmq|2 years ago

Recently re-discovered him due to a Business Wars podcast episode on him. The dude deserves his own movie. Not a nice way to go but he'll surely be remembered.

Lolaccount|2 years ago

RIP ... absolutely opened my eyes as a kid ... tonight, I'm going to dig out the old 30 threadbare paperback about hackers where I first learned of him.

godzillabrennus|2 years ago

I met Kevin in Chicago when he was hired to speak at a bank event that a friend got me into. His presentation was world class. He was quite a guy. Rest in peace.

89vision|2 years ago

What a legend. I remember reading text files about his lore in my early days of exploring the web and being absolutely captivated by it all. Rest easy, Kevin

DoesntMatter22|2 years ago

Wow that's so unexpected. He's been an icon in the computing community for 30 years. He's gone way too soon. I didn't even know he was sick.

ttrrooppeerr|2 years ago

A mentor and a beacon for many of us. Rest in peace.

user3939382|2 years ago

I have a lot of nostalgia for the old 80s/90s hacking counterculture which doesn't seem to really exist anymore.

"FREE KEVIN" :'(

kennyloginz|2 years ago

This guy was so dedicated, he got a job at the DMV. Kind of sad, it sounded like he was liked and got a long with his coworkers at that job.

pelasaco|2 years ago

super influential in my life in the end of 90s. If you work in the security branch, and had to stay alert on Christmas, because hackers love to hacker while Christmas, he was the main responsible by this Tradition. Fuck how thrilled I was when I watched first time some video of his telnet hacking sessions, back in the days... Resist in Peace (RIP)

bdn_|2 years ago

Who knows where I would be today if not for Kevin's influence... Kevin was (and will continue to be!) a role model in many ways. RIP