[mavrc]

I was there too. People always say this, but just because a thing changed once does not mean it will happen again. In this case, the population scale alone has changed by over an order of magnitude.

Just doing some quick searching - the first numbers that come up when you search for "how many people used the internet in the year 2000" are on the order of 350 million or so. Comparatively, now, in 2023, Reddit alone has some 450 million users. It would seem right now that Tiktok has about three times the number of active users than there were total Internet users 23 years ago.

Additionally, there are literally hundreds of billions of dollars now resting on Chrome remaining the dominant browser.

Short of government intervention (or absolutely monumental fuckup on Google's part somehow), Chrome is here to stay.

[ploum]

Yes. The solution is very simple: uninstall Chrome and Chromium.

We are the people with the most influence on the tech. We are prescriptors. We are legion.

– Yes but Chrome is a tad faster and I have my bookmarks and my favorites extension and blablablabla…

— Then you are the root cause of the problem. If you are not ready to sacrifice an ounce of comfort to save the web, then you are the one killing the web.

Simple: install Firefox. Now.

(oh, and, by the way, also removes google analytics and all google trackers from the websites under your control. That’s surprizingly easy to do and a huge blow in Google monopoly. There are plenty of alternatives)

[pmlnr]

> There are plenty of alternatives

Yeah, not for long. Go back and read the proposed changes.

[eastbound]

> The solution is very simple: uninstall Chrome and Chromium.

No. Firefox, beyond being slower, also keeps constantly displaying ads… for itself. Want to open a new tab? “Big Browser cares about your privacy, read how!” I just want to open a new tab!!! I’m working! Restarting? “Discover what’s new with Firefox”, “Hohoho, we care about your privacy, LOOK HOW MUCH WE CARE! ALSO WE HAVE NO ADS!” Worse, they suggest to solve privacy that I use Mozilla VPN. VPNs don’t solve privacy. Also, it’s a paid ad for a paid product.

Mozilla had also a staunch political slant, going as far as firing a CEO for a donation he made to the opposing group years ago. There is nothing neutral here, if you are not a leftist, it’s dangerous to use or even give your participation to that ecosystem.

Mozilla has failed to become the no-ads, better-ethics, privacy-aware navigator (pun intended). They keep performing worse actions than Google all the time.

[Dalewyn]

>Simple: install Firefox. Now.

No.

[smoppi]

>I was there too. People always say this, but just because a thing changed once does not mean it will happen again.

The problem is that the web standards have now grown so much that it is impossible to write a complete new web browser from scratch. Firefox is not coming back, because Mozilla seems to prioritize other things than code quality and the actual usability of their software.

And yes, I know that the SerenityOS developers are trying to do it, but while some very advanced things work "good enough" in their browser so that Twitter and Discord's web client works to some extent, the more basic things are so broken that their browser cannot even render basic HTML 3.2 sites properly.

Google's end goal is probably to "deprecate" HTTP 1.x and force everyone into using their own replacement for the protocol. Their protocol is going to be like the thing they call "HTTP2", an insanely complex protocol that is impossible to implement by a small developer team. In the end their own protocol becomes a "rolling release" protocol that only works with Google's own app, at which point they can completely stop releasing RFCs for it.

[pmlnr]

No, I get it. I can't see a blackout day happening (the one stopped SOPA/PIPA) again either.

But it still happened, against M$, who was the behemoth of the time, so things are never impossible.