[satysin]

It's a ~12 hour drive. No need to fly.

I have far more shame about how much food I waste or worse how much I used to consume if I am honest. When I look at the environmental impact of the food I eat it dwarfs everything else.

Even if I were to fly every time that would have been 42 two-hour flights over two decades. I wouldn't have shame over that number of flights considering I've worked with people that fly more than that in a couple of months just for meetings.

[wappieslurkz]

Apologies for my assumption you would fly there. And yes, I can also always mention worse examples, and those people probably can too. That's one of the cognitive dissonance reduction mechanisms that got us in so much trouble.

[satysin]

No need to apologise, it is a pretty logical thing to assume.

We have flown of course but more often we will drive as we usually break the journey up visiting friends and family in Barcelona and Valencia on the way.

It takes longer to drive obviously but it is a more relaxed journey than flying. Plus as we don't have any time restrictions such as with a hotel booking we can just take our time and if we decide to stay a few more days for whatever reason it doesn't require any changing of flights, etc. Also means we don't need to hire a car for our stay.