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Show HN: Airgram - Send iOS/Android notifications, without building an app

121 points| navneetloiwal | 14 years ago |airgramapp.com | reply

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[+] jwr|14 years ago|reply
Ok, so having tried the app — I won't actually use it until there is a "quiet hours" setting. Notifo got that perfectly right: there are certain hours where I do not want to be interrupted by notification sounds from the service (but I might want to keep other sounds on).
[+] navneetloiwal|14 years ago|reply
Yes, absolutely. Quiet hours will show up in a day!
[+] nchuhoai|14 years ago|reply
I like the idea of unified notifications, but ultimately you have the chicken-egg problem, and for that you need to find an entry point. I'm working on the same problem and whoever solves it, it will create some great value. Can't wait until notifications get detached from email.
[+] joering2|14 years ago|reply
excuse me, but what kind of chicken-egg does he have??IF someone needs notification pushed to their phone, they can use his simple web/app. There is no chicken/egg here...
[+] navneetloiwal|14 years ago|reply
Push notifications are a great way to consume time-sensitive information, like price/airfare, sports, stocks, app reviews, etc. Airgram makes it dead-simple to deliver these alerts without having to build your own app, so that you can focus on building interesting services.

Give it a spin! http://www.airgramapp.com

"I think notifications will become the primary way that we consume on the mobile device and may be the reason we move away from downloadable software and back to web based software on our mobile devices." - Fred Wilson (http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2011/03/mobile-notifications.html)

[+] there|14 years ago|reply
Congrats on the app, it looks nice.

I launched Pushover (https://pushover.net/) this week, which looks to be pretty much the same exact product as yours: an HTTP API to push messages to an iOS and Android client.

I built it over the past 4 weeks to replace my use of Notifo, which shut down last year. There are a few other apps already available, like Prowl, Boxcar, and NotifyMyAndroid, but none were cross-platform, so I built Pushover.

I am charging for my app as a way to pay for the server costs, as I'm not sure how else these types of apps can make money and stay around. Notifo had a lot of users but their apps were free and I don't know if they even had any paying content providers pushing large amounts of messages. How do you plan to make money with yours?

[+] jazzychad|14 years ago|reply
Bug report: I created my own service (couldn't update the image because I can't be bothered to resize an image to 84x84 myself, can't you do that?), and subscribed myself to it. I then tested unsubscribing myself from within the app, but now it appears that I cannot re-subscribe myself (even though the API returns 'ok'). It looks like I can't create more than one service, so I've just screwed myself.

Also, please allow a way to delete notifications in the app. I guarantee you that will be one of the most requested features :)

[+] pxlpshr|14 years ago|reply
This what Notifo was trying to do but ran into quite a few challenges with adoption. You should talk with them more to see how you differentiate and solve the problem they had...
[+] mirsadm|14 years ago|reply
I'm running it on my Android phone now. It works pretty well. I wish it uses Facebook/Google/etc. for user accounts though. The last thing I want to have to do is have another user/password. Also, what is the difference between this and Notifo (yc2010 I think)?
[+] huhtenberg|14 years ago|reply
Can you explain how Airgram compares to (now deceased) Notifo?
[+] navneetloiwal|14 years ago|reply
We believe that mobile web apps need to become much more powerful than they are today. Developing native apps for various platforms is not easy, and frankly, unnecessary for most services. This is just our first step in bridging the gap between native apps and mobile web apps.

We are looking to provide a suite of services around notifications that not just make it easy to deliver the notifications, but provide better targeting, management and analytics.

[+] jjcm|14 years ago|reply
What happened to Notifo? It's still up as far as I can tell.
[+] godfreykfc|14 years ago|reply
I am really skeptical (though I'd be more than happy to see someone prove me wrong) about these "framework" apps, that doesn't actualy do anything by itself, except to provide an API of some sort for others to take advantage of. They reminds me of those obscure ActiveX plugins (3D model viewers, etc) that sites make you install. I am usually somewhat hesitant about getting them on my computer unless a see great value (eg growl), but I suppose I'll be even less willing to have these on my iPhone, as an app that sits somewhere on my home screen. My users might feel differently about this, but it certainly would be very difficult for me to explain to them what is it that they are installing and the experience could become quite confusing.
[+] Roedou|14 years ago|reply
I would really like to send mobile push notifications to users of my service. (I send emails and/or SMS right now.)

Developing an iPhone & Android app - even a simple one that simply lets me alert users - is beyond my mobile dev abilities, and (I assume) would cost tens of thousands of dollars for someone to build.

Airgram might be the answer for me to let users get push notifications as an alternate alerting mechanism.

[+] rasmusbe|14 years ago|reply
would be nice if I, as a Service Owner, could see how many subscribers the service has.
[+] navneetloiwal|14 years ago|reply
This first version is light on management features for the service owner because we wanted to get it out early to get feedback. What you suggest is absolutely on our list of things to do soon.
[+] esharef|14 years ago|reply
I like this. I do think my phone is starting to become a bit too noisy though (too many text messages that start being more like email) and I am not sure how to keep it all organized. Perhaps you guys can help.
[+] tommytsai1984|14 years ago|reply
Thanks for the feedback! We are thinking about various ways to give users a good, easy-to-understand set of controls to manage the noise. Stay tuned.
[+] teyc|14 years ago|reply
Have you figured out how could a website determine if your app is installed? It'd be cute to have a reddit style notification when people reply to your comments in a forum etc.
[+] Splines|14 years ago|reply
Just curious - what's your privacy policy? Are you storing any of the messages that get pushed through this service?
[+] tommytsai1984|14 years ago|reply
Tommy here, Airgram co-founder. Currently, we are storing these messages, but if our users have some use cases that require messages to not be persisted, we'd be happy to add this feature. Do you have a use case in mind? Would love to hear about it -- e-mail me @ tommy at aircrunch dot com
[+] haar|14 years ago|reply
The API page seemed to break on smaller resolution pages (read: thinner).
[+] tommytsai1984|14 years ago|reply
Tommy here, Airgram co-founder. Thanks for the bug report; we are looking into it. Which browser are you using?
[+] joshu|14 years ago|reply
Boxcar?
[+] iamjoshua|14 years ago|reply
At SEscout.com we used notifo for user rank change notifications until they announced they would be ending the service. We have been testing boxcar for a future replacement and are pretty happy with it. Feels like a solid product.
[+] mnutt|14 years ago|reply
Boxcar is great. It was very cool to be able to curl the Boxcar API and have a notification on my phone in a fraction of a second.

My startup uses Boxcar for deploy notifications, new paying customers, etc.

[+] jdg|14 years ago|reply
thanks for the mention josh. it's pretty cool that you know we exist.

-jdg