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wkdneidbwf | 2 years ago

yes, but you can analyze the traffic from the app if you cared too. the point is that you absolutely can verify their claims.

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bob778|2 years ago

I’ve worked on projects that logged locally and only transmitted every ~60 days when they detected the right network (eg public wifi). So unless you monitor it continuously and permanently this isn’t true.

halJordan|2 years ago

I know open source projects that update their code every 30 days. Unless you're continuously and permanently monitoring every patch of every library then this isn't true.

wkdneidbwf|2 years ago

i mean, sure... but lets ignore whatever malware project you were working on. :)

lot of businesses live or die on the trust of their customers. don't they? arc's product is aimed at power users. surely if they were collecting telemetry and then trying to hide the fact they were transmitting it would be a critical blow when discovered.

so while i totally agree that they _could_ operate like that, in most cases there is very little to be gained and a lot to be lost by being intentionally deceptive.

so this will kind of diverge on what we consider as "proof", but i don't think that the software would need to be permanently monitored for a reasonable assurance.

the bar for proof would certainly vary though.

freediver|2 years ago

Hopefully we can agree that even then, it still can be trivially caught by anyone serious into verifying the claim.