[foobarbazetc]

iPhones just work. Macs just work. 99% of people don’t want to spend time configuring anything.

Both iOS and Android stopped innovating like 5 years ago, but at least the Apple ecosystem doesn’t feel dead like Android.

[dmz73]

That's the myth. From personal experience helping iPhone users, they seem to tolerate bad interface and hardware a lot more than other people and blame themselves when they can't get something to work.

[zh3]

I've bought 2 apple products, my wife has bought 1.

iPad: Failed after a year, no replacement (we can 'upgrade') - it technically works but shuts down 3 or 4 minutes after boot.

mac Mini: Hard disk failed. Out of warranty, so bought a cheap SSD and gave it to the kids (they prefer something that plays modern games).

iPod: Old, yes, taken out of the drawer for a road trip but dead as a doornail.

Admittedly, not tried an iPhone.

[akmarinov]

My dad has a Windows PC, I’ve had to help out 5-6 times in the last two years, because Windows just stops booting up after an update…

My wife got a Dell first its NVM gave out a year in (never seen that happen) then - you guessed it - she updated Windows and it stopped booting.

[laserdancepony]

I've had numerous iDevices over the years and not a single one failed anyhow. No iPhone, no iPad, no Power Mac, no Macbook, no mac Mini. And I got a trade in worth 40 bucks on my still working 2013 iPad when I bought my 2021 one.

[skydhash]

I have a 2011 mac mini that is being used as a file/media/misc apps server right now. I’ve also got a 2020 m1 mba (personal) and a xps 15 (from work) and while the xps is more powerful, it does not feel as nice as the mba (no noise, feels solid). I’m not at all happy with apple’s restrictions, but they build nice tools. When i want something to tinker with, I choose something else.

[SapporoChris]

From a sim card set of instructions that I was working with today: For iPhone customers: Please install APN after inserting sim card. Open the following website with Safari-Browser: *.*.com.

That isn't just working. It looks like iPhone users have an extra configuration step when using this particular sim card.

[jackvalentine]

I’ve never seen that before and am interested. Can you post a link to those instructions?

[jjav]

> Macs just work.

Not anymore. The hardware quality has gone downhill hard.

My powerbook from 2004 still works fine (kind of too slow, so I don't use it, but works fine).

In my powerbook from 2021 the entire right side of ports died less than a year into it.

Bought a macbook air in late 2022, one of the usbc ports died just a few months into its life. Which reminds me I need to take it to the store and see if they'll fix it or if I'm SOL again.

[hntway123]

I'm not ragging on anyone that uses Apple products, but the "Apple products just work" thing is just as big of a meme as "Apple is for rich people" & "Android is for poor people" memes. Apple products "just work" so long as you want to do something Apple deems worth doing.

[atahanacar]

If they just work, why are there support forums full of questions?

[pwb25]

except you need a new set of cable adapters for each new phone

they just remove more and more stuff