People in support of this need to consider how this type of legislation affects the integrity of the internet.
This bill is not about supporting independent media like they claim. This is first and foremost a link tax, and the result of it is damaging to free press. Independent media sources depend on traffic from social media platforms to function. They themselves are often the ones sharing the links to their own content to drive traffic and readership from in which they monetize through ads. Furthermore, many of these local publishers leverage their social media following to share content on behalf of other local businesses through sponsored articles and posts. The Canadian government playing strong man here when repeatedly warned of the outcome is putting independent media companies in serious jeopardy of remaining solvent.
Meta and Google are in the right here, and I hope they continue to stand their ground. If they cave on this issue, it sets a terrible precedent that jeopardizes the health of the internet as we know it. Companies should not have to pay the source whenever a link is shared on their platforms. It's just backwards.
If you are talking about situations where they are scraping and displaying the contents of an article, that is a different issue, and seemingly not one that is the primary target of this bill.
Newspapers existed before social media. They will exist after social media deplatforms them. Big Tech should not be able to hold the integrity of the Internet hostage.
This is excellent news. For one, there will be a significant drop in fear mongering click baiting news, and then news publishers will be starved of traffic. The industry needs a hard reset. Would love for this to happen in the UK as well.
> For one, there will be a significant drop in fear mongering click baiting news. The industry needs a hard reset.
While most news orgs need schooling, what a hard reset typically means is some action that would expand the growing news vacuum absolutely.
What we see filling the existing vacuum is worse than worthless content. It is patently false content (often posing as local news), specifically crafted to advance harm-based agendas. That would seem to indicate a hard reset isn't the way forward.
This law is a link tax. It means the government wants Meta and Google to pay every single time a link to a Canadian news source is shared on their platform (from what I understand, including even in private messages to friends). As far as I'm aware, it will also apply to Google in that they will also need to pay to index/show links to Canadian news in their search results like you described.
Or, you know, function as a government that can tackle multiple issues simultaneously.
With previous comment gems like "Canada's healthcare is so bad that if you are not immediately dying, you get no healthcare whatsoever" it's clear that you're not intending to be taken seriously.
There is an election coming up in the next two years and this is the Liberal government’s preemptive effort to control and limit the broadcast of news.
Rephrased: Meta starts process to leave Canadian news sites alone (eg: stop scraping sites for content).
This has nothing to do with our access to news sites in Canada.
Longer version: Meta has been copying content from Canadian news sites, to republish on it's own sites. News sites liked this because it referred free eyeballs & traffic to their sites.
Canadian news biz got Gov to write a law. The law forces some platforms to pay cash if they scrape news (and send free traffic/users to the site). Meta is fine with sending free traffic but is opting out of sending free cash too.
> Rephrased: Meta starts process to leave Canadian news sites alone (eg: stop scraping sites for content).
Not sure what your purpose here is but when you share an article on facebook, you usually get "the title", a leading picture, and occasionally a summary. Now you'll just get an unprocessed URL. It doesn't copy the article verbatim into feeds as you have described.
Now it will just push through links as links. That seems fine as well. I like the fact that you can present or not present content, for whatever terms are negotiated.
I'm not sure it is fair to characterize it as scraping. My understanding is that News sites voluntarily put together a little gift basket of title, image, and summary specifically because they want platforms to display it, and can turn it off with the click of a button.
My best guess is that this is actually a collective action problem/prisoners dilemma. News sites would rather not have the summary (and get more traffic), but any one news site that drops it will lose traffic to those that dont.
Because news sites can't organize and collaborate effectively, they were stuck. In this sense, the law was a win-win. Either a hail mary shakedown, or a ban on all summaries.
It is like grocery stores passing a national ban on coupons.
dsir|2 years ago
This bill is not about supporting independent media like they claim. This is first and foremost a link tax, and the result of it is damaging to free press. Independent media sources depend on traffic from social media platforms to function. They themselves are often the ones sharing the links to their own content to drive traffic and readership from in which they monetize through ads. Furthermore, many of these local publishers leverage their social media following to share content on behalf of other local businesses through sponsored articles and posts. The Canadian government playing strong man here when repeatedly warned of the outcome is putting independent media companies in serious jeopardy of remaining solvent.
Meta and Google are in the right here, and I hope they continue to stand their ground. If they cave on this issue, it sets a terrible precedent that jeopardizes the health of the internet as we know it. Companies should not have to pay the source whenever a link is shared on their platforms. It's just backwards.
If you are talking about situations where they are scraping and displaying the contents of an article, that is a different issue, and seemingly not one that is the primary target of this bill.
toomuchtodo|2 years ago
gumballindie|2 years ago
tredre3|2 years ago
This will do no such thing. News from international orgs (just as capable, if not more, of clickbait and bias) will still be shown to Canadians.
WarOnPrivacy|2 years ago
While most news orgs need schooling, what a hard reset typically means is some action that would expand the growing news vacuum absolutely.
What we see filling the existing vacuum is worse than worthless content. It is patently false content (often posing as local news), specifically crafted to advance harm-based agendas. That would seem to indicate a hard reset isn't the way forward.
WarOnPrivacy|2 years ago
Gunax|2 years ago
I am trying to understand whether this charges for copying of news, or just linking to it.
It seems to be implied that the content is being copied. But news is already copyrightable. Why were existing copyright protections not sufficient?
Or does this law actually change for links?
And what about users sharing links? So if I just send a facebook friend a link to a newspaper, does the newspaper receive money for that?
Does Google need to pay for indexing news sites?
dsir|2 years ago
ilrwbwrkhv|2 years ago
ulrashida|2 years ago
With previous comment gems like "Canada's healthcare is so bad that if you are not immediately dying, you get no healthcare whatsoever" it's clear that you're not intending to be taken seriously.
ryanchoi51|2 years ago
WarOnPrivacy|2 years ago
This has nothing to do with our access to news sites in Canada.
Longer version: Meta has been copying content from Canadian news sites, to republish on it's own sites. News sites liked this because it referred free eyeballs & traffic to their sites.
Canadian news biz got Gov to write a law. The law forces some platforms to pay cash if they scrape news (and send free traffic/users to the site). Meta is fine with sending free traffic but is opting out of sending free cash too.
seanmcdirmid|2 years ago
Not sure what your purpose here is but when you share an article on facebook, you usually get "the title", a leading picture, and occasionally a summary. Now you'll just get an unprocessed URL. It doesn't copy the article verbatim into feeds as you have described.
Now it will just push through links as links. That seems fine as well. I like the fact that you can present or not present content, for whatever terms are negotiated.
s1artibartfast|2 years ago
My best guess is that this is actually a collective action problem/prisoners dilemma. News sites would rather not have the summary (and get more traffic), but any one news site that drops it will lose traffic to those that dont.
Because news sites can't organize and collaborate effectively, they were stuck. In this sense, the law was a win-win. Either a hail mary shakedown, or a ban on all summaries.
It is like grocery stores passing a national ban on coupons.