[throwaway33381]

Europe never abandoned it's "Elitist Discrimination" instead they build it into the foundations of the education system. It's a different model that instead relies on the fact that for most Europeans their lives are often decided when they born. While most Europeans receive some form secondary education they are pipelined at a young age into roles based on various factors that they are in no control of. It's not better than our existing system but it's not exactly the same.

Instead in the European model while Alumni is not considered, those Alumni have a generational advantage that often makes it so that these children end up in the same place as they were born. In the same way it can be very difficult for children born into lower class families escape from the preset paths in life that they are given.

[GordonS]

> While most Europeans receive some form secondary education they are pipelined at a young age into roles based on various factors that they are in no control of

This is simply untrue. It might have been the case a century ago, but is certainly not the case anymore.

[bragh]

It is probably less strict than a century ago, but it is still the case that if you never started or fell off the academic track somewhere, it is very hard or almost impossible to get from the technical track back to the academic track.

[sunbum]

No.[1]

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index

[throwaway33381]

This doesn't really show much besides the fact that for many European Countries they don't suffer from the same form of income inequality as we do. Note that Japan is ranked 15 yet is one of the worst examples of this. The Social Index tells nothing of the lives of the people in these countries.

In Japan you have to be admitted into a high school program and from their the trajectory of your life starts. All the way into the College process. It's not a fair system yet it's ranked 15.

[Aunche]

In Europe, it's easier for someone from the 20th percentile of income to break into the 80th percentile of income. The type of social mobility GP seems to be talking about is escaping the "working class" into the modern equivalent of the aristocratic class (8 figure net worth).

[rat9988]

Your link proves that european countries are close to US. Some better, some worse.

[rhn_mk1]

[Citation needed]. Europe is not some monolithic thing. The education systems between the UK, Germany and Russia differ a lot in how early people have to make decisions about their lives, and how stratified the student classes are.

[local_issues]

Correct + part of the reason Russia is so fucked up is extreme elitism and a massive gap between the provinces and the 2 gigacities. It's like if NYC and London were dropped in the middle of Kazakhstan, and both groups were raised to hate each other.

[arethuza]

Well, the education systems within the UK vary quite a lot.

[Ylpertnodi]

>"for most Europeans their lives are often decided when they born."

I'd absolutely love more details on this...do you have any sources? Also, what makes 'most'? 51%?