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rocho | 2 years ago

Even if you split the search and ads divisions into two companies, what prevents them from entering into a partnership and keep doing whatever they do now?

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tiborsaas|2 years ago

That's what I fail to understand in these breakup threads. They would be free to business with whoever they want. It feels like if a breakup happens it's mostly paperwork and accounting changes in practice.

apocalyptic0n3|2 years ago

In the past, such forced breakups included restrictions on how the new entities could do for a period of time. As an example, AT&T was not allowed to use any of the Bell trademarks despite still owning them. In theory, the government could bar them from any contact whatsoever once the breakup is complete.

That said, AT&T/Bell was broken up in 1984. The "Baby Bells" had all merged back together into 3 different companies (AT&T, Verizon, Lumen) by 2000. So there would need to be better protections in any potential breakup of Google or any other company today

dragonwriter|2 years ago

> They would be free to business with whoever they want.

The separate pieces would not be able to engage in business together that constituted a combination in restraint of trade, because that’s illegal whether or not they are breakuo siblings. Breakups turn what used to be sole company actions into combinations, which, in and of itself, adds legal complications.

(Also, as soon as the ownership diverges at all, which will happen almost immediately, between the siblings, a lot of things that are problematic for market effects would also be breaches of fiduciary duty on one side or the other.)

And all of this leaves out the explicit targeted constraints that would inevitably be part and parcel of any breakup order.

NoMoreNicksLeft|2 years ago

No, they would certainly not be free to do business with whomever they want. There's a reason the Baby Bells didn't all just enter into a partnership with each other the day after the breakup... they were not permitted to do so.

If/when business was unavoidable between two offspring companies, at minimum, I would expect them to have to inform the FTC, justify how it was unavoidable, and make the details of the transaction public. If someone complained that it wasn't unavoidable, quite possibly there would be additional penalties leveled on each of the participants.

It's not like some Monty Python character waves a wand and declares "you're not n different companies", only to wander off and never exercise oversight. Mind you, I don't think there's enough political capital in the world to manage to break Google up, but if it did happen then the judgement will have the teeth to make sure they're actually broken.

polygamous_bat|2 years ago

Enshittifying search to serve ads' end goals/margins will go against the search company's shareholder interest, and they can be sued for that.

geysersam|2 years ago

Not if ads' pays them to do it!

thereddaikon|2 years ago

Good chance the shareholders would be the same people for both.

seanhunter|2 years ago

The court order would embargo that for a period of time.