[iamatworknow]

I always bought into this "meme", in part because just about every EV review I've seen mentions having to compensate for the extra weight which makes those cars less performant at times, so decided to look it up based on your quoted vehicles here, and figured I'd save anyone else the same search:

A 2023 Rav 4 has a curb weight of between 3615 and 3775 lb [1]

A 2023 Ioniq 5 has a curb weight of between 3968 and 4663 lb [2]

So a difference of between 193 and 1048 pounds between the two. That's actually a lot less than I expected, at least on the low end. 193 pounds is basically equivalent to just having one extra person in the car.

As noted in replies, though, these _do_ take into account different drive trains, so the comparison is not not great from the start.

[1] https://www.toyota.com/rav4/2023/features/mpg_other_price/44...

[2] https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/ioniq-5/compare-sp...

[ultrarunner]

Not to devolve into splitting hairs, but your minimum range is comparing the heaviest premium AWD ICE vehicle to the FWD-only standard model electric, and the electric is still heavier.

[iamatworknow]

Yeah, I missed that there were the two lines for the Ioniq 5 weight based on the drivetrain, and a column that was not obviously hidden with my window size, my bad.

[arh68]

Your numbers seem off...

Base models: 3,370 vs 3,968. Flagship models: 3,800 vs 4,663.

So 600-850 lbs differential. Not 1,000, but not just an extra person.

To be fair, the Hyundai does seem larger (12" longer wheelbase).

[iamatworknow]

Yeah...I messed up. Damn window size and two different drivetrains for the Ioniq. Side note, web design sucks.

[oblio]

You don't have as many small cars in the US. Small EVs are MUCH heavier than small ICE cars. Think 30-40% heavier.