[achiang]

Real world usage is you only get to use ~70% of the stated range on a road trip, so we're really talking about 350 miles of range, which is, as you say, what most people actually want.

Why 70%? You obviously don't run the battery to zero, 10% is a common amount of buffer to leave. And then when you DC fast charge, the rate of charging drops dramatically around 80%, so people don't charge to full.

These are for ideal conditions, add in any sort of weather and the range drops again as you run a heater, etc.

Living in the Bay Area, driving to Tahoe in the winter without a mandatory recharge should be the gold standard.

It's not an unusual use case, "only" about 180 miles, and yet there aren't any EVs that can do it confidently because going uphill in the cold with aerodynamic-destroying ski rack is really hard.

A car with 500 miles of fair-weather range could probably do it?

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Well the Lucid Air with the big battery could probably make that drive no sweat, but that’s out of reach to almost everyone.