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ausudhz | 2 years ago

somewhat similar to the demonization of communism that the west pushed for decades?

Apparently there are many people that are more incline to just smile and nod rather than arguing. Probably the geographical location of these is not really important. They're equally distributed across the globe

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rsynnott|2 years ago

If you’re talking about McCarthyism, then yes, similar dynamic. If you’re talking about today, then don’t be silly.

ausudhz|2 years ago

Yes I'm taking about that, you're the only one that understands it apparently.

The thing is that my comment couldn't be anyhow related to today's situation (I've used the past tense) since communist doesn't exist anymore (not the way it used to) and most of the country that implemented it widely abandoned it (probably the only exception is perhaps North Korea)

joenot443|2 years ago

This is a wildly off-base comparison to make, I'd be impressed if your comment stays up for long.

ausudhz|2 years ago

I don't understand why people get so emotional when you mention the word communism

It was a simple comparison point on the previous comment that, by my standard was also wildly off base (given that he said dumb to a whole country basically)

the fact is that the west seems to be so attached (weirdly) to communism despite even those who implemented it already abandoned.

Are you scared of ghosts or what?

misja111|2 years ago

> somewhat similar to the demonization of communism that the west pushed for decades?

I'm not sure what you mean with 'the west', but in Western Europe communist political parties were allowed just like any others. When I went to high school in the 80's it was even kind of fashionable to have communist sympathies. This was before the fall of the iron curtain though, once it went down it became clear how terrible communism had really been.

ausudhz|2 years ago

that doesn't make it less demonized. Unless you forgot the media campaigns on it and the plenty of wars that started in the attempt to stop the spread of communism.

yesco|2 years ago

No, because the government doesn't need to demonize communism to make it sound dumb. Hell if anything, the contrarian nature of Americans caused many to entertain the idea after witnessing the demonization, which makes it basically the opposite of China's situation.

ausudhz|2 years ago

> No, because the government doesn't need to demonize communism to make it sound dumb

true, because the citizens of these countries are already uninformed enough about communism that they are indeed the one that make it sound dumb

drno123|2 years ago

I have lived in a country under communist rule until it fell apart in 1990.

If you haven’t experienced communism first hand, you have no idea how bad it is, even the watered-down communism of 80s.

ausudhz|2 years ago

it doesn't matter if I've experienced it or not. My comment it's not a praise to communism, perhaps just read it again (and read the context from which it started too)

saiya-jin|2 years ago

As somebody who intimately saw on my closest ones and everybody else various horrible things that communism does to society and every single individual in it, and how the legacy of it can't be shed easily even after decades and multiple generations, you don't need to demonize communism a slightest bit .

Just point out well known facts, in balanced manner, and that's more than enough.

Kye|2 years ago

After a lifetime of being on the boot end of capitalism, I don't think communist systems are special in being full of horrors. I don't think the particular system humans use to justify those horrors is the issue.

AbrahamParangi|2 years ago

The "demonization" of communism is wholly deserved. Every communist country, ever has been am impoverished, totalitarian, shithole. The most successful "communist" countries are those that have given up on economic communism (China, Vietnam), though they'd be even more successful if they gave up on political communism too.

The track record of communism is so insanely bad that it is literally the second worst ideology of the 20th century, beat only by facism which caused the instant self-immolation of every country to ever try it (while inflicting terrible harm on their neighbors).

HL33tibCe7|2 years ago

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ausudhz|2 years ago

the only fool here is you that don't understand the meaning of the comment I've made.

Nowhere in my comment I said that communism is good