[whyagaintango]

Whether they conspire or it is accidental due to thinness from customers

- it has consequences

- no one says- well pollution is not due to oil companies but customer obsession towards buying cars etc

- one tries to push better standards, reduce pollution etc

> major laptop brand is easy for the end user to repair

Dell latitudes

Again if apple has a tiny market share like LVMH then ok. But they are close to 50%.

If omega/rolex throws away EXPENSIVE A all is ok. Just 100 watches are made for 50K each.

Apple sells millions. Do you know when apple tried to brick all the phones with 3rd party fingerprint reader? That is terrible for environment.

Again if I look at your profile you live in SE Asia. These places will be affected by environment and cause high population deaths.

Again,ifixit only says allow others to make parts.

The likes of you can buy applecare and trash env. Lets others fix your old device.

[gregjor]

First off, resorting to ad hominen insults diminishes everything you write. "The likes of you?" You can F right off. You don't know anything about me. Yes, I buy Applecare, because that extends the life of my Apple devices -- Apple does do repairs, you know. My older devices go to my children, my parents, my family, my wife's large family. I don't throw old phones or laptops away. Try sticking to the actual topic rather than tossing out stupid insults.

I do say that pollution is due to obsession with cars and refusal to use public transportation, bicycles, walk. I haven't owned a car in years. I don't support the oil companies but they aren't forcing everyone to buy two pickup trucks, they're just enabling it. Supply and demand, pretty simple concept.

Dell Latitudes are sold as business computers. Businesses depreciate things like laptops over 3-5 years. They may or may not care about repairs and upgrades, but in my experience businesses pay for service contracts with Dell etc. The Inspiron line is Dell's consumer line, somewhat less amenable to upgrades and repairs, though I grant better than Apple hardware. Both Dell and Apple offer recycling and trade-in programs, though I don't know what ultimately happens to that stuff. I see used phones, tablets, laptops for sale all over Asia, along with lots of small repair shops, so it's not all just going into landfill like in the US.

Apple's desktop market share is around 15%, not 50%, but that includes desktop and all-in-one iMacs. Laptop market share is closer to 7% globally with the (hard to repair) Asus and Acer ahead by a fairly big margin.

LVMH does not have tiny market share. They are the leading luxury brand. Among all purses or luggage or shoes sold, yes, LVMH is tiny. In their niche they dominate.

You seem to miss my actual point. You don't need to imagine a conspiracy at Apple to force consumers to buy new phones and laptops all the time by making their products unrepairable. The economics of manufacturing, logistics of supply, and the nature of consumer craving and demand do that for Apple, with no need for a conspiracy. Once Apple secured its spot as the luxury electronics brand they don't have to conspire -- people willingly buy new iPhones every year (they stand in line overnight, in fact) for the status display.

[alpentmil]

What about the day a child is not as successful as you - and cant afford to buy Apple when it breaks. So you would like him/her to buy $700 replacement motherboard or would you have preferred to get the SSD replaced. (And assume it was not your child - all is OK but if it was your child?)

You can write "f off" with money. But Apple is indeed > 50% market share(iPhones, lockin). Of course, you need not care because you have money.

You dont own car. How does it matter here? People are only criticising Apple. Not you.

> though I don't know what ultimately happens to that stuff

A quick google would tell you. So much is crushed.

Every inspiron has replaceable parts.