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curryhoward | 2 years ago

The Y combinator is not the same as λ calculus. The Y combinator is an expression in λ calculus.

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lmm|2 years ago

The Y combinator is in a sense the heart of the λ calculus; it's a key discovery for understanding that the λ calculus is universal, which is what makes it a useful concept rather than an arbitrary bundle of rules.

cvoss|2 years ago

The simply typed, and, especialy, the dependently typed lambda calculi are extremely versatile and powerful subsets of untyped lambda calculus which do not admit the Y combinator. Their usefulness does not at all require universality, and are, perhaps, more useful for being typed.

andsoitis|2 years ago

> heart of the λ calculus

The Y combinator is a specific fixed-point combinator in lambda calculus. It is used to express recursion in lambda calculus where direct recursion is not initially available due to the lack of named functions. The Y combinator demonstrates the power of lambda calculus.

Hirrolot|2 years ago

> which is what makes it a useful concept rather than an arbitrary bundle of rules.

I cannot recall a single practical FP language based on the Y combinator for recursion. The typical approach is to extend lambda calculus with a separate recursion primitive.