Need them here in the UK. There are so many cars modified to have explosive sounding exhausts it's unreal. I get woken up regularly in the night when they drive them around at 2AM making a lot of noise. I still don't get why anyone would want to drive around sounding like that. There is no reason other than you want to look like a complete wanker and at that point society should crush your car to a fucking cube instantly.
Edit: turns out we do have them and they have been fining people. But it's mostly supercars. The problem is with shitty little cars with stupid exhausts which outnumber the supercars by at least two orders of magnitude.
I still don't get why anyone would want to drive around sounding like that.
Evidence from game behavior suggests ~30% of people are willing to experience some cost to themselves in order to inflict a greater one on other people. People like this don't feel they are winning unless someone else is losing. If true, this explains a great deal.
Motorcycles too. Around here idiots revving and redlining their engine is a relatively regular occurrence. Much more so than cars, although that also happens from time to time.
I regularly lie awake as some idiot is racing round residential London streets in the distance, in densely populated areas it must be in the thousands of people that are being disrupted by a single person.
When I moved to London from Central Europe, I was surprised how many people drive with loud exhausts in residential areas. It was especially annoying during the night, when every fifteen minutes some idiot would drive down the nearby 2-lane road (Aerodrome Rd, Colindale) at full throttle.
We already have them in some areas (along with PSPOs which create the legal basis to fine for excessive noise). I think Knighsbridge was the first but believe they now also have them on Brompton Road and a few others - see here https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/london-counc...
I never understood the desire to be loud. My EV is probably faster than most of the cars on the road screaming at the top of their lungs and showing off their engines and it's whisper quiet. I like it that way.
Blame Jeremy Clarkson and the car culture he fostered. For decades, new and old cars were judged by their ability to spin their wheels around a test track, and by the loudness of their exhaust heard inside a tunnel.
Part of it is the prevalence of "pop and bang" maps, modified ECU configuration which changes timing and allows unburnt fuel to enter the hot exhaust and explode.
There is a purpose to this in turbocharged cars in motor racing - anti-lag - as the extra gases keep the turbo spinning during gear changes. No reason for it on public roads though.
There's also a lot of "cat deletes" (removal of catalytic converters to improve exhaust gas flow and increase engine power). Illegal, but very common to see on YouTube and just like pretty much anything else illegal on the roads in the UK these days, the police don't seem to care at all.
> There are so many cars modified to have explosive sounding exhausts it's unreal
> There is no reason other than you want to look like a complete wanker
In case anyone doesn’t know, the pop sound can serve a real purpose. The sound comes from extra fuel being ignited in the exhaust, which is done to keep the turbo spinning when you let off the gas. It helps minimize turbo lag. It also occurs in older race cars that had carburetors because they had less precise control over fuel injection compared to modern cars.
That said, some people tune their car to imitate that sound with no purpose just cause they think it sounds cool. They waste extra fuel just to sound like that.
same here by me in a random part of the US. My house sits on a street that is not incorporated by the local city so the sheriff has jurisdiction over it and won't bother to send a squad car to watch for speeding. It's a residential street that is very straight for the area and easy to see on. The speed limit is 35 mph but I have clocked people going 80 mph past my house. I think people know it for being a good road to speed on. One car used both lanes to do a speed test and the marks are still on the street, smoke all over my yard from that one.
I noticed it increased after 2020. My theory was here at least that people got accustomed to speeding from the empty roads and lower enforcement but I think the extremely low interest rates let people get into the car market and a lot of people bought obnoxious cars and modded them. Some people must like that noise. I think it's a signal of how their car is fast and they are willing to flaunt rules.
My old high school friends put noisy exhaust systems on because the unrestricted systems promised to increase the hp of their 100hp honda civics by 5-10hp. BMW actually used to play fake engine noises through the speakers bc they were afraid the cars had become to quiet. Harley Davidsons whole reason for existence is to be noisy. Wankers everywhere.
This is great. Noise pollution really is a massive blind spot in vehicle regulations. Even combustion-powered cars can be made pretty quiet, but morons associate "loud" with "fast", so manufacturers keep installing defeat devices in the mufflers. Motorcycles are even worse. The noise measurements are apparently made under completely unrealistic operating conditions, and on the road they are many times louder than most cars.
I wish they'd bring this to near me. I'm especially interested because I'm a motorcyclist. Seems 90% of riders get angry when an exhaust isn't loud as a jet and it's often one of the first mods people make.
I couldn't care less and prefer not to annoy everyone in a 100 yard radius from me.
Unlike what most riders will say loud pipes don't really save lives, good and safe riding does. They just use this excuse for the mistakes they make most of the time.
OT: It's not actually a "noise camera". It's a speed camera with some directional microphones that triggers if there is too much noise, probably with some filtering to try to avoid triggering on noise that isn't loud car noise.
There are actually acoustic cameras that are much more like a "camera" in that you get a 2D map of the sound reaching the device. This can be overlaid on an image from a light camera and you get an image where you can see where all the sounds are coming from.
Some of them can make acoustic movies, where each frame is a light camera image overlaid with the sound map, usually coloring the optical image based on the sound with color indicating frequency and brightness indicating loudness.
With these you can do neat things like make a sharp sound and see the echo bounce around a room, or look at something making a variety of sounds and see which sounds are coming from where.
They often include software that is kind of an audio image version of Photoshop. You can use that software's equivalent of the eye dropper tool to point anywhere in the image and here the sound coming from that point. E.g., if you had an acoustic movie of the strings of piano and the pianist was playing a 10 note chord you could pick an individual string and play back the sound of just that string.
Here's a video where science YouTuber Steve Mould was loaned some to play around with, showing some of the cool things you can do with them [1].
It's a minor nit-pick either way but a speed camera doesn't make an image of the speed nor usually use images to calculate speed. It usually measures the speed using radar, laser or wire loops and then captures an image. So I think the term "noise camera" makes sense in this context.
I am in Amsterdam right now. Two things you notice quick when you are where Dutch people actually live (i.e. outside of Centraal): first, that it is remarkably quiet, and second, that cars are remarkably loud.
The loudest vehicles are the mopeds, though. It's almost like they don't have mufflers. I wonder if they are regulated differently?
My maxi scooter has its OEM mufflers and it isn't too noisy.
Problem is many people mount noisy aftermarket ones. They mount back the original one when they have the scheduled inspection.
Having said that, outside of the amount of decibels there are engines that are more annoying. 2-strokes high pitch screamers and single and bi-cylinder with lots of low frequency / bass noise.
And there are models that are probably made to pass homologation but do higher noise outside of the rev range used during homologation/inspection. The Yamaha T-Max is one example. It should be prohibited and all its drivers euthanasied. I am obviously joking for the second part but I have never encountered a decent human being riding one, they only attracts the worse of humanity. Yamaha should be ashamed of that.
I did a brief stint in Hoogte Kadijk one summer a few years back , seriously I actually developed severe depression which I think was from lack of sleep due to the unusual heat , the mopeds going past and the Airbnb guests checking into our old building at all hours making so much noise.
I couldn’t wait to leave, which was sad because the winter and autumn was absolutely bliss. We had a great life there.
The mopeds were astoundingly loud though, I’ll never forget it, I had PTSD, I could hear them coming from a ways off and it would make my blood boil before they went past and fuel my insomnia.
What is funny is the mopeds are still plaguing me in a different part of the world now :) they should be banned altogether, they suck.
When i was a kid, removing or significantly altering the muffler was the #1 mod to obtain more speed, and then of course there was the psychological effect of making noise to let everyone know you were around, which to me isn't that different to beasts growling loud to mark a wider territory. I guess that is normal for kids, not so much for grown ups.
I live in Amsterdam and beg to differ. You are probably only referring to Jordaan, indeed it's pretty quiet for a simple reason: most streets aren't accessible by car (or if they are, they are a huge pain to drive around on). Have you been to de Pijp? Or the Oud Zuid? They're much more accessible by car and they're also incredibly noisy. I have lived in all 3 and can tell you that the difference is noticeable to say the least.
And also in Holland they barred right from the start using a mobile phone in restaurants which I love. I remember walking around the cobblestones one evening wearing dress shoes with a solid wood heal and got a lot of dirty looks for the clops. Not surprised at all this innovation is Dutch.
This is why I kind of like the idea of so-called "Active Sound Design"[1]--where car makers are starting to play vroom-vroom noises over the internal speaker system to make their engines sound louder. Car enthusiasts criticize it as "fake engine noise" but it's actually brilliant: The only person who really cares that someone's car is loud and obnoxious is that car's driver, so let him blast himself with vroom-vroom and let everyone else enjoy a slightly quieter existence.
This sounds great and all, but…. I live in an urban residential neighborhood and have a major hospital at the end of our block. Our street is a pretty big cut through street.
Yeah loud engines and music (and phone calls!) from cars is annoying, but that’s not where most of the sound comes from.
It is just tires on the asphalt that is so loud. I don’t know if this is due to how heavy American cars have gotten or changing roads from concrete to asphalt, but it has become quite unbearable.
The rise of e-bikes and personal mobility scooters has helped cut down on the noise somewhat, but I don’t know what you do about regular car noise (other than banning cars).
Also, whatever vehicle designer that decided the horn should honk whenever the car locks — you are on the top of my list!
> Also, whatever vehicle designer that decided the horn should honk whenever the car locks — you are on the top of my list!
This should be illegal. I sort of get it 30 years ago when aftermarket & OEM car alarms were a new thing, but that's it's still acceptable in 2023 is asinine.
No artificial sound should be allowed when locking or unlocking a car. Maybe flashing the headlights at most.
My last sedan would beep when you hit the lock button twice, which was great because I could lock it without being annoying but I could also use a beacon to find it in a parking lot. Now, my new RAV4 makes the tiniest little blip no matter how you lock it, it's only audible from a few feet away, so I can never find it in a parking lot.
I know this isnt a popular take but as a diesel engine mechanic, i think Amsterdam is going to be surprised at just how many "clean idle" diesel and modern trucks they are going to catch simply due to the nature of the regulation.
the regulatory ban on dirty trucks is a good thing, but most manufacturers implemented their fixes in the most ham-fisted and half-hearted way they could think of at the expense of noise emissions. take Vortec for example, a technology that creates a little mini "tornado" or air in the intake box to boost performance and improve emissions. at the hood or 'bonnet' of the truck during accelleration this thing can peak around 100db. Volvo tries to solve this with foam insulation for the intake area but that never lasts more than a few hundred thousand miles. Ive seen vortec trucks set off car alarms.
then theres the desperate attempt to keep unmaintained trucks on roads. If trucks dont get service regularly for urea tanks and other emission control devices, theyre supposed to go into 'limp' mode. 30kph, no faster, until service is made. well truck companies got around this by instituting 'regenerative' mode. if you walk past a very loud truck (and i mean freight train loud) idling in the street during a delivery, chances are good its past its service interval and has entered regen mode. idle engine speed is ramped up from 750 RPM to nearly 3500 in an attempt to generate temperatures hot enough to combust waste gasses instead of clean them on exit (frankly it doesnt really work.) its hard on the entire engine and environmental system but hey, truck still gets to do its job for the week.
This is very timely as some jerk has just got himself a very loud motorcycle and decided it would be fun to ride it through our neighborhood day and night. I mean night, like after 11pm. And this is Seattle, where we leave our windows open at night because nobody has air conditioning. He is single-handedly interrupting the sleep of at least a thousand people every night.
Because this thoughtless dweeb actually seems to stick to a schedule, I’ve managed to capture his license plate, but I am considering building and deploying a personal “noise camera” to deliver a mountain of evidence to the police and see if they’ll take action. From this thread it sounds like that might be a popular open hardware project!
Amazing, it's so great to see this done and I wish sound pollution was taken nearly as seriously where I live.
Another cool thing is when I visited Japan and I learned a lot of the tools and drills used in renovations have more quiet/less noisy counterparts so when someone remodels a room in an apartment building or house next door it doesn't actually have to ruin your work-from-home day.
God bless Amsterdam for doing this. I had to move because of the noise produced by cars and motorcycles in the city where I lived. The vehicles were intentionally made noisier with "aftermarket exhaust systems". The people who intentionally make cities noisier are the lowest possible scum. Their vehicles should be confiscated and sold at auction, with none of the proceeds returning to the former owner.
I honestly rarely experience cars that are unreasonably loud in Amsterdam, they’re all roughly as loud, which bugs me but I’m used to it my whole life (and they got quieter over time).
But scooters and motorcycles? They frequently stand out as being much louder than anything, it’s jolting and creates an immediate annoyance that lasts until it’s out of hearing range.
I’m very optimistic as I expect these to be electrified relatively quickly. Not heavy motorcycles per se but they’re pretty rare. Gasolike scooters were everywhere though but they’re disappearing quick, in part due to helmet/roaduse rules in Amsterdam, in part due to electric scooters and bikes.
This summer I was bicycling for a while behind two (combustion engine) BMW touring motorbikes, and they were so quiet I think my clunker bicycle may have been the noisier of the three. I thought about thanking the riders, it really makes a big difference in the city.
Cities aren’t loud. Cars are loud. Especially the ones that are modified or designed to be loud.
Given the newest research regarding excessive noise’s impact on human, I wish more countries put some kind of effort into reducing noise on roads like the Netherlands does (this isn’t the only thing they do).
Articles like these always bring out suburbanites who point out that cities are loud and you need to deal with it if your are in the city. But most city noise is vehicles and it's quite amazing when you get a chance to realize this (for example when a normally busy street is made pedestrian-only for a weekend).
And sometimes you don't realize how life-alteringly noisy a particular street is until you move there. I have 2 examples. Near Cambie street bridge in Vancouver can be extremely loud at night. Normal traffic noise during the day. But there's a traffic light followed by a bridge which is slightly uphill, which I guess is an invitation for people in loud cars to burn out when the light turns green in the middle of the night. In Tokyo I lived on a very-quiet looking side street, it was nearby a Domino's and parallel to another small street, just large enough to have a traffic light. So my short street had a loud scooter accelerating into and out of it every few minutes to bypass the traffic light. These sorts of things aren't noticeable when you just visit a city but are absolute hell if you end up living nearby. The first example at least would be a good candidate for a noise camera.
Finally. Loud cars are one of the biggest "silent" contributors to health risks and climate change. Loud vehicles are tightly coupled with excess speed and acceleration as well. People want to "show off" their rides. Sacrificing the health of those that surround them while they make as much noise as possible.
Think about it. Windows open you suddenly get jolted out of bed when a car flies by that has been modified to produce more noise to boost someone's ego. Moreover the excess tire exhaust and vehicle exhaust from rapid acceleration causes respiratory issues.
About climate change? Of course this causes more climate change. People are forced to close their windows and use conditioned air because of the noise outside. So many summer nights people can't open their windows near streets because of the noise modified vehicles cause.
The same noise and pollution issues apply when you're driving next to them as well. You have to close your windows in case your kids are sleeping or you are trying to listen to something then one of these noise attention seekers comes by who thinks they are awesome and wants you to pay attention to them. Their car is loud, and he or she needs that attention.
It's ridiculous. Its a waste of taxpayers money due to elevated health risks and its a waste of energy because people are forced to close their windows while driving or at home.
I would like to mention Timo Gatsonides here. He was CEO and CTO at SensysGatso BV. They build popular speed cameras. When I was an employee there, he was building these noise cameras along with emission capture etc. I am not affiliated with them anymore, was they were implementing some really good strategies in netherlands. Not sure if this implementation is by them, there is lot more you can do when it comes to traffic enforcement.
PS. Most of the Trajectcontrole in netherlands are implemented by them
[+] [-] baz00|2 years ago|reply
Edit: turns out we do have them and they have been fining people. But it's mostly supercars. The problem is with shitty little cars with stupid exhausts which outnumber the supercars by at least two orders of magnitude.
[+] [-] anigbrowl|2 years ago|reply
Evidence from game behavior suggests ~30% of people are willing to experience some cost to themselves in order to inflict a greater one on other people. People like this don't feel they are winning unless someone else is losing. If true, this explains a great deal.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.1600451 - see figure 3 if you want to get right to it.
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There is a purpose to this in turbocharged cars in motor racing - anti-lag - as the extra gases keep the turbo spinning during gear changes. No reason for it on public roads though.
There's also a lot of "cat deletes" (removal of catalytic converters to improve exhaust gas flow and increase engine power). Illegal, but very common to see on YouTube and just like pretty much anything else illegal on the roads in the UK these days, the police don't seem to care at all.
[+] [-] OGWhales|2 years ago|reply
> There is no reason other than you want to look like a complete wanker
In case anyone doesn’t know, the pop sound can serve a real purpose. The sound comes from extra fuel being ignited in the exhaust, which is done to keep the turbo spinning when you let off the gas. It helps minimize turbo lag. It also occurs in older race cars that had carburetors because they had less precise control over fuel injection compared to modern cars.
That said, some people tune their car to imitate that sound with no purpose just cause they think it sounds cool. They waste extra fuel just to sound like that.
[+] [-] onetimeusename|2 years ago|reply
I noticed it increased after 2020. My theory was here at least that people got accustomed to speeding from the empty roads and lower enforcement but I think the extremely low interest rates let people get into the car market and a lot of people bought obnoxious cars and modded them. Some people must like that noise. I think it's a signal of how their car is fast and they are willing to flaunt rules.
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I couldn't care less and prefer not to annoy everyone in a 100 yard radius from me.
Unlike what most riders will say loud pipes don't really save lives, good and safe riding does. They just use this excuse for the mistakes they make most of the time.
[+] [-] tzs|2 years ago|reply
There are actually acoustic cameras that are much more like a "camera" in that you get a 2D map of the sound reaching the device. This can be overlaid on an image from a light camera and you get an image where you can see where all the sounds are coming from.
Some of them can make acoustic movies, where each frame is a light camera image overlaid with the sound map, usually coloring the optical image based on the sound with color indicating frequency and brightness indicating loudness.
With these you can do neat things like make a sharp sound and see the echo bounce around a room, or look at something making a variety of sounds and see which sounds are coming from where.
They often include software that is kind of an audio image version of Photoshop. You can use that software's equivalent of the eye dropper tool to point anywhere in the image and here the sound coming from that point. E.g., if you had an acoustic movie of the strings of piano and the pianist was playing a 10 note chord you could pick an individual string and play back the sound of just that string.
Here's a video where science YouTuber Steve Mould was loaned some to play around with, showing some of the cool things you can do with them [1].
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtMTvsi-4Hw
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[+] [-] not-my-account|2 years ago|reply
The loudest vehicles are the mopeds, though. It's almost like they don't have mufflers. I wonder if they are regulated differently?
[+] [-] prmoustache|2 years ago|reply
Problem is many people mount noisy aftermarket ones. They mount back the original one when they have the scheduled inspection.
Having said that, outside of the amount of decibels there are engines that are more annoying. 2-strokes high pitch screamers and single and bi-cylinder with lots of low frequency / bass noise.
And there are models that are probably made to pass homologation but do higher noise outside of the rev range used during homologation/inspection. The Yamaha T-Max is one example. It should be prohibited and all its drivers euthanasied. I am obviously joking for the second part but I have never encountered a decent human being riding one, they only attracts the worse of humanity. Yamaha should be ashamed of that.
[+] [-] ChatGTP|2 years ago|reply
I couldn’t wait to leave, which was sad because the winter and autumn was absolutely bliss. We had a great life there.
The mopeds were astoundingly loud though, I’ll never forget it, I had PTSD, I could hear them coming from a ways off and it would make my blood boil before they went past and fuel my insomnia.
What is funny is the mopeds are still plaguing me in a different part of the world now :) they should be banned altogether, they suck.
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It also specifically calls out mopeds: https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8?t=680
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https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromfiets
The equivalent English translation would be "Pthththththbike".
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* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
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1: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15117726/faking-it-en...
[+] [-] l72|2 years ago|reply
Yeah loud engines and music (and phone calls!) from cars is annoying, but that’s not where most of the sound comes from.
It is just tires on the asphalt that is so loud. I don’t know if this is due to how heavy American cars have gotten or changing roads from concrete to asphalt, but it has become quite unbearable.
The rise of e-bikes and personal mobility scooters has helped cut down on the noise somewhat, but I don’t know what you do about regular car noise (other than banning cars).
Also, whatever vehicle designer that decided the horn should honk whenever the car locks — you are on the top of my list!
[+] [-] ipqk|2 years ago|reply
This should be illegal. I sort of get it 30 years ago when aftermarket & OEM car alarms were a new thing, but that's it's still acceptable in 2023 is asinine.
No artificial sound should be allowed when locking or unlocking a car. Maybe flashing the headlights at most.
[+] [-] cactusplant7374|2 years ago|reply
I recommend never visiting Ecuador. Car alarms (false alarms), lock, and unlock sounds are an all day thing.
If you think America is bad you ain’t seen nothing yet.
[+] [-] joeframbach|2 years ago|reply
My last sedan would beep when you hit the lock button twice, which was great because I could lock it without being annoying but I could also use a beacon to find it in a parking lot. Now, my new RAV4 makes the tiniest little blip no matter how you lock it, it's only audible from a few feet away, so I can never find it in a parking lot.
[+] [-] nimbius|2 years ago|reply
the regulatory ban on dirty trucks is a good thing, but most manufacturers implemented their fixes in the most ham-fisted and half-hearted way they could think of at the expense of noise emissions. take Vortec for example, a technology that creates a little mini "tornado" or air in the intake box to boost performance and improve emissions. at the hood or 'bonnet' of the truck during accelleration this thing can peak around 100db. Volvo tries to solve this with foam insulation for the intake area but that never lasts more than a few hundred thousand miles. Ive seen vortec trucks set off car alarms.
then theres the desperate attempt to keep unmaintained trucks on roads. If trucks dont get service regularly for urea tanks and other emission control devices, theyre supposed to go into 'limp' mode. 30kph, no faster, until service is made. well truck companies got around this by instituting 'regenerative' mode. if you walk past a very loud truck (and i mean freight train loud) idling in the street during a delivery, chances are good its past its service interval and has entered regen mode. idle engine speed is ramped up from 750 RPM to nearly 3500 in an attempt to generate temperatures hot enough to combust waste gasses instead of clean them on exit (frankly it doesnt really work.) its hard on the entire engine and environmental system but hey, truck still gets to do its job for the week.
[+] [-] wrs|2 years ago|reply
Because this thoughtless dweeb actually seems to stick to a schedule, I’ve managed to capture his license plate, but I am considering building and deploying a personal “noise camera” to deliver a mountain of evidence to the police and see if they’ll take action. From this thread it sounds like that might be a popular open hardware project!
[+] [-] inglor|2 years ago|reply
Another cool thing is when I visited Japan and I learned a lot of the tools and drills used in renovations have more quiet/less noisy counterparts so when someone remodels a room in an apartment building or house next door it doesn't actually have to ruin your work-from-home day.
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[+] [-] NoLinkToMe|2 years ago|reply
But scooters and motorcycles? They frequently stand out as being much louder than anything, it’s jolting and creates an immediate annoyance that lasts until it’s out of hearing range.
I’m very optimistic as I expect these to be electrified relatively quickly. Not heavy motorcycles per se but they’re pretty rare. Gasolike scooters were everywhere though but they’re disappearing quick, in part due to helmet/roaduse rules in Amsterdam, in part due to electric scooters and bikes.
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[+] [-] dangus|2 years ago|reply
Given the newest research regarding excessive noise’s impact on human, I wish more countries put some kind of effort into reducing noise on roads like the Netherlands does (this isn’t the only thing they do).
[+] [-] johnwalkr|2 years ago|reply
And sometimes you don't realize how life-alteringly noisy a particular street is until you move there. I have 2 examples. Near Cambie street bridge in Vancouver can be extremely loud at night. Normal traffic noise during the day. But there's a traffic light followed by a bridge which is slightly uphill, which I guess is an invitation for people in loud cars to burn out when the light turns green in the middle of the night. In Tokyo I lived on a very-quiet looking side street, it was nearby a Domino's and parallel to another small street, just large enough to have a traffic light. So my short street had a loud scooter accelerating into and out of it every few minutes to bypass the traffic light. These sorts of things aren't noticeable when you just visit a city but are absolute hell if you end up living nearby. The first example at least would be a good candidate for a noise camera.
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[+] [-] louwrentius|2 years ago|reply
I hate that noise pollution in general isn’t a higher priority as it really impact people’s lives.
But the biggest issue is motor bikes, not the cars. It’s as if bikers are truly anti-social scum, and I’m saying this as a former biker.
[+] [-] blondie9x|2 years ago|reply
Think about it. Windows open you suddenly get jolted out of bed when a car flies by that has been modified to produce more noise to boost someone's ego. Moreover the excess tire exhaust and vehicle exhaust from rapid acceleration causes respiratory issues.
About climate change? Of course this causes more climate change. People are forced to close their windows and use conditioned air because of the noise outside. So many summer nights people can't open their windows near streets because of the noise modified vehicles cause.
The same noise and pollution issues apply when you're driving next to them as well. You have to close your windows in case your kids are sleeping or you are trying to listen to something then one of these noise attention seekers comes by who thinks they are awesome and wants you to pay attention to them. Their car is loud, and he or she needs that attention.
It's ridiculous. Its a waste of taxpayers money due to elevated health risks and its a waste of energy because people are forced to close their windows while driving or at home.
[+] [-] debarshri|2 years ago|reply
PS. Most of the Trajectcontrole in netherlands are implemented by them
[+] [-] jacquesm|2 years ago|reply