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dbuder | 2 years ago

Tell us the price son

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NikkiA|2 years ago

They're not hobbyist friendly - 16x16 'tiny' BGA packages, so there's no real benefit over other ARM SBCs, they're massively slower than almost everything else atm. The advantage of STM32 was always that you could prototype on a SBC, but the chips were accessible enough to use in hobbyist projects.

spacedcowboy|2 years ago

Or $19 for the easy module, inc flash & emmc… [0]

Although since I recently discovered [1] that the R-Pi has an exposed memory interface bus (Secondary Memory Interface, SMI) on its GPIO, I’m far more inclined to use them instead. Getting low-latency/high bandwidth I/O into these “A” (rather than “M”) processors has always been the thing that made using an I.mxRT, STM MP1 or Zynq attractive to me. Turns out the lowly Pi has had that capability all along…

Coupling a Pi via SMI with a low-end (read: cheap) FPGA (Ice40K, or Efinix, hell go to town and get an Efinix T20 with 195 io for $8) makes a potent device, IMHO.

You can still get an rpi zero W for $15 [2], and even the quad-core zero 2W if you shop around is ~22€ [3], which blows the STM away in terms of CPU, video out, ease of development etc.

[0] https://www.myirtech.com/list.asp?id=726

[1] https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/state-of-raspberry-pi...

[2] https://rpilocator.com/?country=US

[3] https://rpilocator.com/?cat=PIZERO2

lnsru|2 years ago

They’re not for hobbyist. Wrong shelf. They’re for real products and not SBCs. That’s why you also don’t have NXP parts in the hobby area. For low volume you buy SOMs and for big runs design complete printed circuit boards.

HeyLaughingBoy|2 years ago

> chips were accessible enough to use in hobbyist projects

Sure that's nice, but hobbyist use doesn't move the needle for ST Microelectronics even a tiny bit.

zokier|2 years ago

.8mm pitch <300pin BGA is still significantly easier to deal with than the typical <.5mm pitch 500-1000+pin monster packages SoCs usually come in.