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kwijibob | 2 years ago

They are going to deeply regret going with two digits year codes. ;)

So amazed at how Libreoffice just keeps on keeping on.

Such a great free open source suite to keep on every machine. Even if it is just a fallback to Google Docs/Sheets.

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pezezin|2 years ago

That is something that pisses me off immensely. If you see version 2024.2 you can immediately recognize it is a date, but 24.2 might be a date, might be a numerical version number, who knows.

Is it so costly to write the year in full?

TillE|2 years ago

Ubuntu is the first place I encountered this convention. You might think that Ubuntu 22.04 and 22.10 are closely related because the vast majority of software uses something that loosely resembles semver, but no, they're two different major releases. Very confusing.

Dalewyn|2 years ago

Windows 11 22H2.

Because writing Windows 11 2022 like any sane man would be far too unreasonable.

No, the H2 doesn't mean anything anymore. Once upon a time it stood for "Half", with H1 standing for "First Half" and H2 for "Second Half" of whatever year in two digits.

Of course, I still find this nonsense far more preferable to the bullshit that is the Chrome Version System where the entire number means jack shit.

totetsu|2 years ago

and then completely disregarding that version number that is shown easily to you, and making you remember which animal adjective matches to it when you want to download any file.

benj111|2 years ago

what info does 7.6 give you?

If it's important enough to you that you keep track of libre office version numbers you'll probably remember it's a year.

If not, it's still no worse than the old system, so what's the issue.

xtracto|2 years ago

I like libreoffice for what it has represented since the days of StarOffice. BUT...

A couple of months ago my dad and I had to edit a large-ish book of 250+ pages (recipes) with a Table of contents and whatnot.

We ended up using Google docs because LO TOC and headers sync and editing Functionality was lacking.

I remember in MS Office 2000 there was a view showing only headers and easily allowing you to correct levels and indentations, as well as moving full sections.

Also we needed to automate a bit some image formatting and G docs scripting was just more straightforward.

And finally, the seamless online collaboration made it a no brainer, instead of document sharing and changes tracking.

It's a shame LO has achieved a lot and is amazing we can have such functionality for free. The team has done an amazing. I was just bummed something like GDocs seemed more complete for my book use case (particularly bc editing a 250+pages book in the browser is PAINFUL)

Kadin|2 years ago

Interesting, as I have had the opposite experience. There are lots of documents that I have to work with -- most created originally in Word 2007, I think -- with very intense formatting, forms, embedded charts and other crap, and Google Docs makes a total hash out of them.

LibreOffice, OTOH, pretty much looks just like they did on the original.

The one issue I've run into is font substitution. The fonts that LibreOffice uses by default if the actual Microsoft fonts aren't installed are not, at least IMO, very good substitutes. They don't look great to me, but worse they seem to be very different in terms of character/word width, so everything gets reflowed to hell and back. But assuming you install the actual MS fonts, the results seem quite good.

mixmastamyk|2 years ago

Hmm, I thought "outline mode" was finally implemented after ten or fifteen years. When was this?

rob74|2 years ago

YMMV - I just cursed LibreOffice a few minutes ago while trying to open and fill in a form (amateurishly) built in Word. When loading it, it obviously didn't look as it was intended (text boxes were overlapping and partly obscuring each other), but it was more or less Ok. But after filling it in, it wasn't able to print it - the print preview only showed an empty box! I then proceeded to upload it to Google Docs, which also didn't show it as intended, but at least managed to print it.

whatisyour|2 years ago

if two different office suites failed to work with a document, then it might be that the document format is at fault. ;-)

jraph|2 years ago

Not sure about your particular case, but this kind of things is often caused by a missing font on the receiver side.

magpi3|2 years ago

I thought of this. When 2100 comes around, they can just add the third digit (100). They won't have any regrets until the year 3000.

someplaceguy|2 years ago

I thought of this. When 3000 comes around, they can just add the fourth digit (1000). They won't have any regrets until the year 12000.

3np|2 years ago

Bah. There's an implicit leading 0 there. So at one point we'll just roll over to version 100.2 or whatever. As with months, so with years.