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jaspervdj | 2 years ago

If you wanted to log from fibonacci, you would pass a some logger instance down to this function. In Haskell, this could be a record or a typeclass instance. In other languages, it could be an object or a struct. There is no fundamental difference. All the layers above would still have to pass this through; explicitly or implicitly.

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rowanG077|2 years ago

The difference is most language have global state. See rust for example. It's not common to inject a logger, a "world" object for IO or anything for which you need monads in Haskell at all.

You are arguing from a concrete technical standpoint: "But you need to do the same thing in other language if you want to mirror Haskell monads". Sure, you are right. That also completely glosses over the point I'm making. I simply feel like the way haskell does it is unergonomic, it would also be unergonomic to something equivalent in other languages.

I don't know what a good solution would be, maybe a constrained partial type signature? Let the compiler pick the smallest constraint from a larger space of available constraints that fits with the usage and simply let the type checker bubble it up until you actually care to specify it? GHC doesn't support this but it should be possible in theory.