[nus07]

Heated conversations and debates to drive innovation was fine in the Oppenheimer and AT&T Bell days . Today it takes one wrong word to get called up by HR or a recording that can sabotage your entire career. I don’t think the tech industry or the country’s work culture suffers heretics anymore. I am fine with the lack of passion and lack of innovation on Zoom if it helps my anxiety and ADHD better and allows me to work without offending anyone . I just want to keep a steady income .

[tonfreed]

I've had many a heated argument with the older bloke on my team.

I'm very much a "I need to come back to this in 12 months, do it properly" kind of person, while he just gets stuff working.

I've rejected PRs and spent many an hour bashing my head against the wall trying to explain these things to him, but at the end of the day we still have a beer after work and generally enjoy each others' company. Heated doesn't necessarily mean unfriendly

[safeimp]

I'd say this is nuanced? Heated can certainly mean elevated to a point of being argumentative but the way I interpreted it in this case is more about being impassioned?

I'll regularly get into these types of scenarios with colleagues and find them to be considerably easier to have in person versus over Zoom or Slack. It's very difficult to fully read someones body language or intent when remote but for me it's easier to go have this type of debate in person and then walk away on good terms or maybe just heading out for a walk together to cool off and rebalance.