I don't think that's true. "Right to erasure" still works just as well as it always has, but you might need to ask the folks who have scraped and are re-sharing your information to also delete your personal data. That's not an unreasonable thing to have happen, nor is it an unreasonable thing to expect.
Let's suppose an embarrassing image of Person X is shared on Facebook and Person X uses their right to erasure with Facebook to delete their profile. Facebook has no control over the folks who may have downloaded or screenshot-ed that photo and turned it into subsequent memes. Likewise, if someone straight up scrapes and re-shares, that's not Facebook responsibility.
What I don't want to see happen is for:
1. Facebook to make it somehow impossible for anyone to ever copy or screenshot that or any photo, preventing anyone from ever doing anything with photos on Facebook without Facebook's explicit permission. This would seem to be quite the loss of user agency for very little society wide benefit (also, how would they do this?)
2. Facebook to somehow "control" that photo so closely that Facebook is able to remotely revoke folk's copies and screenshots of said photo in the spirit of "abiding by a persons right to erasure"; that'd be a huge overreach, but seems like the only other way to approach this (though "how" is also an open question).
Even asserting that "unlimited scraping makes some privacy regulations moot" seems like an implication that we can only have privacy laws by going towards situation #1, and that doesn't seem accurate given that folks can use existing privacy laws to remove content from any distributor (as long as they're compliant).
Not exactly. You can request a site to erase all the data it has on you, but not that they erase the memories of everyone who has seen this data. How is this any different?
Your tone implies you're serious, but I struggle to believe anyone could possibly equate persisting digital media with recalling a memory.
In case you really need an example to elucidate, consider reproducing an image. A scraper can quite literally accomplish that, trivially; a great artist would still be limited in multiple facets of the recreation, such that even one with the best memory and hand would find themselves far short of pixel-perfect.
lelandbatey|2 years ago
Let's suppose an embarrassing image of Person X is shared on Facebook and Person X uses their right to erasure with Facebook to delete their profile. Facebook has no control over the folks who may have downloaded or screenshot-ed that photo and turned it into subsequent memes. Likewise, if someone straight up scrapes and re-shares, that's not Facebook responsibility.
What I don't want to see happen is for:
1. Facebook to make it somehow impossible for anyone to ever copy or screenshot that or any photo, preventing anyone from ever doing anything with photos on Facebook without Facebook's explicit permission. This would seem to be quite the loss of user agency for very little society wide benefit (also, how would they do this?)
2. Facebook to somehow "control" that photo so closely that Facebook is able to remotely revoke folk's copies and screenshots of said photo in the spirit of "abiding by a persons right to erasure"; that'd be a huge overreach, but seems like the only other way to approach this (though "how" is also an open question).
Even asserting that "unlimited scraping makes some privacy regulations moot" seems like an implication that we can only have privacy laws by going towards situation #1, and that doesn't seem accurate given that folks can use existing privacy laws to remove content from any distributor (as long as they're compliant).
fluoridation|2 years ago
nawgz|2 years ago
In case you really need an example to elucidate, consider reproducing an image. A scraper can quite literally accomplish that, trivially; a great artist would still be limited in multiple facets of the recreation, such that even one with the best memory and hand would find themselves far short of pixel-perfect.
brendamn|2 years ago
text0404|2 years ago