[javitury]

I don't understand why modern thinkpads are so hyped.

Recently I bought a L14 AMD and it doesn't even come with a decent keyboard or touchpad. The touchpad feels laggy and clunky, there are many of such reports for L14 and T14 models. The built-in keyboard ocassionally gets stuck pressing a key, and the I need to suspend-and-resume to unstuck it.

As you said, usb-c dock problems are a nightmare. Better get a good usb 4 cable with 40 gbps and 100 watts, or else you will spend countless hours doubting if problems are because of the cable. Spoiler: it's not any particular cable, it's the laptop.

For comparison, we use dell latitutes (intel) at work and they just work fine. I wonder if problems are common to all modern thinkpads, or if it only affects AMD models.

[cmrdporcupine]

From what I can tell from the two Lenovo products we have in the house -- an all-in-one machine with a stylus (for my daughter for art) and this Z16 ... Lenovo (esp AMD Lenovo) has a serious software quality problem. Everything from BIOS & drivers up to their awful custom packaging of Windows. I'm a Linux guy but I keep a Windows partition around and on both machines life got a lot better after I removed the stock Lenovo Windows install and got a fresh install on it.

But firmware has been a total nightmare. Just one quality problem after another.

But hardware seems good.

Never used to be like this. Had older thinkpads and they were great.

Still I should say I prefer working on my Z16 vs the HP laptop provided by work. It has a different bag of problems, and a terrible keyboard and trackpad.